Why nothing on the BBC about the grooming gangs?

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So then, a letter has been sent to the Secretary of State for Justice:

https://forums-images.pistonheads.com/140241/202602117397159

Nothing much has materialised yet in terms of an official UK Government enquiry, but an MP led enquiry has been moving forward at some pace and the emerging details and sheer scale and proliferation of what has happened seems unfathomable. An excerpt from a judge’s sentencing remarks in one such rape gang trial paints a truly disturbing picture:

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So why is what is likely the most far-ranging and sordid scandal in UK modern history, with many 1,000's of abused, drugged and raped young British girls, (mostly underage) getting hardly any attention from our mainstream media?

Women who were raped and tortured as children are talking about their experiences. One woman as a 12 year old had a bottle forced into her vagina which then cracked, she was 12. The level of sadism is extraordinary.

I don’t think this whole “it’s racist to talk about this” thing is going to work anymore. I don’t think it’s racist and I’m from an ethnic minority. The scale of the coverup and the collusion of the police and social workers is really coming to light because the victims can talk about what happened to them without a filter and with everything included. They should have a damn voice, they were just kids. If you care more about Lowe than you do about the industrialised rape of children then I really don’t believe you occupy a moral high ground here.

Those who seek to deflect from the systematic sexual abuse of children by scoring cheap political points, or calling those exposing these atrocities names, are complicit themselves in the coverup IMO.

Perhaps it's because the very institutions that should have protected the girls were afraid of being labelled racist and Islamosceptic. So ordinary people will keep quiet for fear of the same slurs.

What is actually happening now, like this week, that is not being reported?

If you think GB News only report facts, you are deluded.

There is an ongoing complaint about Trump being able to state that parts of London are under Sharia law, that climate change is a hoax, and that life expectation in Glasgow is 57.

Those are untruths that GB News let stand and did not contradict in a recent interview. The presenter agreed with him and claimed that the US feels safer than the UK.

Please don't let yourself believe GB News is unbiased just because it may confirm your own beliefs.

And Yet Sir Jim Ratcliffe is all over the news for saying we have been Colonised.. Il be gutted if he apologises

I hope Ratcliffe doesn't apologise, I bet he'll be forced to though. We need an honest debate about immigration, not brushing it under the carpet because "racist". I'm not expecting anything from this government though.

All in the name of social cohesion.

I have written to my MP to ask why UK statistics are not available for the ethnicity of perpetrators of crime, the ethnicity of victims is recorded.

I hate the BBC as much as I hate our government.

Some of us, perhaps especially those of us who were abused by white men or in predominantly white institutions, are a bit bemused by seeing sexual abuse weaponised by anti immigrant politicians (the grooming gangs) or anti-Starmer politicians (the Epstein papers).

It's almost as if some people only care about abuse when it serves their political aims. Whereas the truth is, wherever there are men, there is abuse, and it has often been covered up, ignored or not taken seriously.

The same papers that are now baying for blood absolutely normalised perving on young girls, using 16 year old Page 3 models, counting down to child celebrities turning 16 etc.

Reform have accepted money from Crispin Odey, who has multiple accusations of sexual misconduct and Reform MP James McMurdoch was jailed for physical abuse of his girlfriend. You will find abuse and misogyny in every class, race and institution. The only common factor is that the perpetrators are overwhelmingly men, with a tiny number of women actively involved - not unheard of but very, very rare.

I am seeing Reform post the graphic details of the grooming gang assaults on Facebook and my heart weeps for those poor girls. But I don't believe Reform have any interest in rape victims unless they can make political capital out of them.

Well aside from the fact that they deliberately picked vulnerable girls from care homes, there were parents of children who went to the police and were sent away after being told it was their daughter's choice to go with these men.

I’d say people are equally up in arms about the Epstein sex trafficking, which is only now becoming clearer. That’s white men trafficking.

We have been angry about the sex abuse that happened in children’s homes, churches, sport…

It’s totally inaccurate to say people only care when brown men are the abusers. But they are doubly angry- angry at the abuse, and angry that it was covered up/continued unchallenged because of the race of the perpetrators and fear of unrest as a result. If you keep peddling that, then you as complicit as the original whitewashers.

A social worker was sacked for raising the issue.

The BBC has a lot of issues. Separate subject but they were clinging onto the term female/person all day yesterday regarding the Canadian shooter.

Cos it’s BBC in it .

The most biased media outlet there is.

The evidence coming out is just horrific. The sheer hatred that those men must feel for young British girls is evident in the torture and degradation - it was/is far more than sexual.
Where's the true racism? What those men did, or us talking about it?

I feel you're absolutely right. What's evident across discussions about grooming gangs and the Epstein files is that people are using them as a tool to further or confirm their own political aims or beliefs.

The focus should never stray from the victims of these absolutely vile crimes and getting them justice and working for change that makes sure things like this do not happen again.

I think this crosses political lines, I’m suspicious of anyone criticising this as being political. Listening to a woman talk about being abused as a child and doing something about it isn’t a political act it is about justice. Regardless of how you would vote in a general election or your views on immigration, a massive injustice has been committed and trying to silence people is the same as saying people are “weaponising rape” which is the most vomit inducing phrase I have ever come across in my life and what some of the criticisms of this enquiry sound like.

Either children were raped or they weren’t. Either it was covered up or it wasn’t. It’s extremely simple to my mind. Either we listen to victims who are speaking out to make sure people are held to account or we ignore them so we don’t give succour to reform (who by the way kicked Lowe out if their party, he’s an independent). To my mind being on the right side here is to side with the victims.

I’m really sick of accusations of weaponising atrocities against children, it’s so dismissive. Girls were talking about having keys shoved in their vaginas. It’s so grotesque and yet people will say “ssssshhhhhh you don’t want to look racist do you”.

Is that nit the point of Lowes enquiry, survivors quit the government enquiry because they said the government was tryign to direct what they could say and were gagging them. They engaged with this one for a reason.

Yep.

This is why GB news are racist to bring it up, because they never report on the white grooming gangs, who are by far the largest number of perpetrators.

I think it's very possible that institutional fear of being seen as racist allowed gangs to operate with impunity.

But I think this is the narrative being pushed - that they did it because of "hatred of young British girls" - just whips up racial tension and adds a meaning that may not be there.

Because actually, like all the other abusers, they chose the vulnerable victims they thought they could get away with. A significant number of men hate and despise women. Violence and abuse have been endemic in every layer of our society, and other societies. I don't understand it, I know not all men are like that, but lots, of all races and classes, are.

The focus on young British girls is likely to reflect the non-availability of young Asian girls who may be allowed far less freedom and spend less time out of the home than white

Many of the men frothing at the mouth about young British girls being abused by Pakistani men are quite happy to ignore the statistics about male violence against women and girls. A significant number of people arrested in last years riots - which were all about "protecting our girls" - had criminal records for domestic abuse.

This is what makes me quite cynical about the motives of those choosing to focus on one subset of abuse.

Well said.

But if you listened to the account of these survivors of a white grooming gang you would be equally appalled. If Reform quoted from the trial in the way they are about the Pakistani gangs, we would all be outraged. But they won't because they are only interested in the gangs that further their agenda.

Glasgow child sex abuse gang given life sentences - BBC News

Almost 85% of the UK population is white, versus around 6.5% of the UK population is Muslim. Yet it has been estimated that in some Muslim communities predominantly located in cites such as Rochdale, Bradford, Luton, London, etc, etc, a significant proportion of men have been actively involved in these grooming gangs. Yet there has been no condemnation from community leaders. Why is that?

This is what the Rupert Lowe enquiry seeks to discover. The extent of the problem, who has been complicit, and who has been covering it up, so that the thousands of victims can feel some closure and the perpetrators can face justice. Surely we can all support this?

But feel free to start your own thread on white grooming gangs if you feel this deserves it, which it probably does. It shouldn't however be used as an excuse not to investigate, or to minimise the specific and abhorrent nature of these Muslim rape gangs though.

Again, this is a thread on Pakistani Muslim grooming gangs. Please start your own thread on this if you like, but don't belittle the experience of thousands of young girls subjected to rape, torture, and mutilation at the hands of these monsters.

@BishyBarnyBee that rape gang are so different from the ones investigated. One the two children involved were from one of the women two they were not trafficked all over the country by different groomers it was in one area one house none the less disgusting

I have raised this to make my point that we can't assume that the Pakistani grooming gangs exist as part of some kind of Muslim war on white people.

They exist as part of the male war on women and girls.