Disentangling Britain from America

[Samdelila]

I know we are reliant on the USA for security and they are a major trading partner, but I would like to know what, if anything, could be done to disentangle us from the USA in the future. Does anybody have any ideas?

Correct. More people = more crimes. But per capita is something people either don't understand or choose to ignore, because it reveals the crime rate in amongst specific demographics and it's often not long before someone gets called a racist, so we don't go there.

We need to distance ourselves from the US, Trump is unpredictable, Biden wasn’t a fan of the U.K. preferring Ireland we can’t rely on the new President being any better as the US’s last two Presidential choices weren’t great. We need to ensure we have good relations with countries where we don’t just go along with them particularly when they are as bullying as Trump.

Do you mean me? I very much did not vote for Brexit. I want us to get closer to Europe again as this will make us stronger and less reliant on the US.
The terrorist threat to the UK and British nationals is indeed very scary - and it is exacerbated by our close alliance with the US.

So why did you not mention per capita ? Because you ignore it ?

Crime rate by demographic is going to be difficult. Because that can only really be recorded when arrests are made, and gone through the legal system. A burglary that is reported but not solved, for example, can't be allocated to a demographic.

Demographics are recorded for UK crime. Here is a link to a statistics site. Data sources are mentioned here, and can be looked up.

Crime Statistics in UK by Race 2025 | Key Facts - The World Data

I really don’t think terrorism is a reason to distance ourselves from the US. It’s not as though France hasn’t suffered from it terribly, for example.

Generally, though, I don’t recall all this condemnation of the US when Biden was in charge. If you mean we should be disdainful of Trump, fair enough. But Trump isn’t the US, or at least not for long in the scheme of things.

But Trump is a complete loose cannon. No one knows what he will come up with or focus on next and many suspect he has dementia. Which country would want to cow-tow to that?

"So why did you not mention per capita ? Because you ignore it ?"

No. There's just not a lot of point addressing it in most conversations these days. It's too inconvenient or too complex for the ideologically-driven and cognitively bereft.

I think that's why Russia held off invading Ukraine. If Trump said "If you invade this country, I'll bomb you off the face of the earth.", would you dare call his bluff?

The EU is an economic bloc not defence. If you’re after a stronger defensive pact NATO is the one to look at and for that look at how much more funding has gone in.

So you just presume people can't understand data, so you potentially willfully misrepresent it ?

Cool.

That's what the right wing press, among others, usually do. And they tend to be very ideologically driven.

Just because he is demented doesn't mean he is a good ally, the opposite. If he wanted to he could have stopped Russia invading Ukraine, but he hasn't, instead finding profit in misery and siding with Russia in raiding other countries through bullying tactics. It is in US interests to encourage Russia to be threatening if they can both divvy up the spoils afterwards.

Typically is the the rate of a crime per 100k people. On that basis the murder rate is much higher in the USA than any country in Europe. You are four times more likely to be killed by a police officer than by a terrorist in fact

Well, I don't consider myself to be on any particular side of the political horseshoe and I'd appreciate it if people didn't assume I'm a leftist, centrist or rightist or associate me with anything remotely partisan.

Has Trump ever been diagnosed with dementia? I know Biden was and the press did everything it could to cover it all up.

I am not presuming anything. I just stated what it appears you were doing. Then I separately stated that the right wing press do that.

Conflation, that is another right wing trait. That's a statement, not an accusation.

Well, you are. You could have told me I'm demonstrating any kind of trait based on how you perceive my responses. Stick to schooling people who care about what you have to say, because this is now bordering on harassment.

Conflation of what?

Biden was diagnosed with cancer.

If you thhink the media covered up Biden's alleged dementia, don't you think they would do the same with Trump?

Who do you mean here? The pp has already said no
thanks to your take on their politics.

Ah, you are correct. My apologies. Biden was indeed diagnosed with prostate cancer. There was a lot of rumour in the right-wing press that he was suspected to have dementia or that he was in some kind of cognitive decline, which to be fair, couldn't all have been wild speculation considering his many on-screen gaffes with the teleprompter!

I believe the prostate cancer Biden was diagnosed with was the same cancer Scott Adams recently died from.

Just goes to show no matter your views on anything in life, there's no winning at anything, so just enjoy life.

"....don't you think they would do the same with Trump?" I honestly have no idea.

Biden's alledged dimentia??
Did you see the presidential debate that finshed his career?

Do you have any medical evidence?

That's why Trump's dementia claims are also alledged.

You have seen his recent performances?

I am replying to posts addressed to me. Same as I am doing with your post.

There’s nothing that I’ve seen that suggests that Biden’s brain degeneration has anything to do with his diagnosis of prostate cancer. Whether there was any cover up by the media about his mental descent who knows.

What we do know is that he and others around him refused to address it until too late when it became unconcealable.

Well the pp has been clear in response so maybe don’t keep going with your take.