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Good on Kemi!

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MrsBennetsPoorNervesAreBack · 15/01/2026 15:17

I'm no fan of Kemi Badenoch, but I'm even less of a fan of Robert Jenrick, and I'm rather delighted to see that she has sacked him and withdrawn the whip before he could jump to Reform.

She has definitely had the last laugh here. He must be spitting bullets!!

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TeenagersAngst · 18/01/2026 15:06

NoWordForFluffy · 18/01/2026 14:43

Why would they hold council elections again in 6 or 9 months' time (other than if a by-election was required for some reason)? Council elections are held in May (other than by-elections).

I'm not sure you understand how council elections work (https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/election-timetable-in-england/election-timetable-in-england).

If you're going to throw shade on Eastern and her opinion of Labour, at least base your post on a feasible position.

Because some councils are being merged into larger unitary authorities. It’s those councils that have been allowed to apply for a postponement since they wont exist in a year’s time.

That’s the theory. My worry is they won’t be ready next year either.

NoWordForFluffy · 18/01/2026 15:17

TeenagersAngst · 18/01/2026 15:06

Because some councils are being merged into larger unitary authorities. It’s those councils that have been allowed to apply for a postponement since they wont exist in a year’s time.

That’s the theory. My worry is they won’t be ready next year either.

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Ah, somehow that had passed me by! But I would think that they would surely time the change so the elections for the new authorities will fall in line with the usual election timetable? That would make the most sense?

In any event, elections should just go ahead as planned in case of delays.

TeenagersAngst · 18/01/2026 15:28

NoWordForFluffy · 18/01/2026 15:17

Ah, somehow that had passed me by! But I would think that they would surely time the change so the elections for the new authorities will fall in line with the usual election timetable? That would make the most sense?

In any event, elections should just go ahead as planned in case of delays.

It’s becoming clear that the councils are taking longer to restructure than anticipated. Some mayoral elections have already been postponed.

Sir John Curtice was being interviewed and said it’s ‘interesting’ that the majority of councils requesting the postponement are Labour.

Dragonflytamer · 18/01/2026 15:48

TeenagersAngst · 18/01/2026 15:28

It’s becoming clear that the councils are taking longer to restructure than anticipated. Some mayoral elections have already been postponed.

Sir John Curtice was being interviewed and said it’s ‘interesting’ that the majority of councils requesting the postponement are Labour.

Hmmm that is "interesting". I wonder if there is also a correlation with places where Reform are polling well that would be "interesting" too.

PandoraSocks · 18/01/2026 15:49

TeenagersAngst · 18/01/2026 15:28

It’s becoming clear that the councils are taking longer to restructure than anticipated. Some mayoral elections have already been postponed.

Sir John Curtice was being interviewed and said it’s ‘interesting’ that the majority of councils requesting the postponement are Labour.

I think only 9 of the 67 councils involved are Tory and three of those are possibly postponing.

Not sure exactly how many of rest of the 67 are Labour, but it is not surprising if the majority asking for postponements are Labour if the majority of the 67 are Labour?

TeenagersAngst · 18/01/2026 15:53

Dragonflytamer · 18/01/2026 15:48

Hmmm that is "interesting". I wonder if there is also a correlation with places where Reform are polling well that would be "interesting" too.

Can’t tell is this is sarcasm? The word ‘interesting’ was in inverted commas because I was quoting Sir John Curtice.

Reform is polling well in some of the councils which have applied to postpone so this move benefits other parties more than it does them.

TeenagersAngst · 18/01/2026 15:56

PandoraSocks · 18/01/2026 15:49

I think only 9 of the 67 councils involved are Tory and three of those are possibly postponing.

Not sure exactly how many of rest of the 67 are Labour, but it is not surprising if the majority asking for postponements are Labour if the majority of the 67 are Labour?

I think his point was that setting aside absolute numbers, a greater percentage of councils asking to postpone are Labour vs other political parties. In the interview I saw, he was pondering why this is.

PandoraSocks · 18/01/2026 16:01

TeenagersAngst · 18/01/2026 15:56

I think his point was that setting aside absolute numbers, a greater percentage of councils asking to postpone are Labour vs other political parties. In the interview I saw, he was pondering why this is.

OK, thanks. I'll try to find his interview.

Dragonflytamer · 18/01/2026 16:07

TeenagersAngst · 18/01/2026 15:53

Can’t tell is this is sarcasm? The word ‘interesting’ was in inverted commas because I was quoting Sir John Curtice.

Reform is polling well in some of the councils which have applied to postpone so this move benefits other parties more than it does them.

The main beneficiaries are obviously the councillors, that are about to loss their seats, they are the ones making the decision to delay following the established Reeves strategy of delay and hope for a miracle.

EasternStandard · 18/01/2026 16:34

Dragonflytamer · 18/01/2026 16:07

The main beneficiaries are obviously the councillors, that are about to loss their seats, they are the ones making the decision to delay following the established Reeves strategy of delay and hope for a miracle.

Reform were set to do better and Labour do worse in those elections, so yes Labour have more to gain by not having them.

MellersSmellers · 18/01/2026 16:57

Big bloody deal!
It was a complete no-brainer, wasn't it, I don't understand why she is being lauded.
And I don't think it makes Reform any more attractive - their line-up of ex Tories makes me want to vomit

Abhannmor · 18/01/2026 18:13

MellersSmellers · 18/01/2026 16:57

Big bloody deal!
It was a complete no-brainer, wasn't it, I don't understand why she is being lauded.
And I don't think it makes Reform any more attractive - their line-up of ex Tories makes me want to vomit

Quite agree. Load of recycled refuse from the Tories. Perhaps they could balance it out by having some old Labour flops defect as well. Peter Mandelson has a free diary I think.

oviraptor21 · 18/01/2026 18:22

Alexandra2001 · 18/01/2026 07:46

But thats the point... you ve made it perfectly.

She was in Govt for 5 years, Welfare boomed under her watch, she supported Truss, who cost the country 100s of billions, still paying for it.

Her cuts in Welfare? So people will come off disability benefits, onto unemployment ones.... where is the saving?

But even worse is the country needs around 60billion on defence, maybe 100 billion, her Govt cost the country 29 billion in a failed railway - 5 billion off Welfare doesn't touch the sides....

Your arguments on additional costs of employment, are the same as those trotted out over the introduction of the NMW - higher NMW or ENI hasn't stopped my friends company from growing, what is restricting growth is a lack of skills - who is responsible for that?

Again, you make the slur... despicable.

ENI has led my DS's relatively small employer to make 5 redundancies. I'm sure they're not the only ones.

strawberrybubblegum · 18/01/2026 20:54

Unemployment is rising

https://www.ons.gov.uk/employmentandlabourmarket/peoplenotinwork/unemployment/timeseries/mgsx/lms

Good on Kemi!
Teanbiscuits33 · 18/01/2026 20:59

strawberrybubblegum · 18/01/2026 20:54

Do you think this might be partly to do with the rise of AI as well?

Sherbs12 · 18/01/2026 21:20

I see that there’s been another Tory MP defection to Reform, this pm - Andrew Rosindell. Reading about him, he seems like a perfect fit for Reform…

BIossomtoes · 18/01/2026 22:14

Teanbiscuits33 · 18/01/2026 20:59

Do you think this might be partly to do with the rise of AI as well?

It’s apparently hitting entry level graduate jobs hard.

Teanbiscuits33 · 18/01/2026 22:28

Sherbs12 · 18/01/2026 21:20

I see that there’s been another Tory MP defection to Reform, this pm - Andrew Rosindell. Reading about him, he seems like a perfect fit for Reform…

If anyone’s interested, there’s a petition to call automatic by elections when sitting MP’s defect

petition.parliament.uk/petitions/737660

BIossomtoes · 18/01/2026 22:45

Teanbiscuits33 · 18/01/2026 22:28

If anyone’s interested, there’s a petition to call automatic by elections when sitting MP’s defect

petition.parliament.uk/petitions/737660

That’s a bit pointless when Jenrick and Rosindell would probably get reelected anyway. Kruger might be in a bit more trouble.

Teanbiscuits33 · 18/01/2026 22:50

BIossomtoes · 18/01/2026 22:45

That’s a bit pointless when Jenrick and Rosindell would probably get reelected anyway. Kruger might be in a bit more trouble.

Yeah, maybe. If they get re elected then so be it but it should be for the constituents to decide. I know I’d be mightily pissed off if I’d voted for an MP from a certain party and he suddenly defected to a party that didn’t align with what the electorate in that area wants.

strawberrybubblegum · 19/01/2026 00:30

Teanbiscuits33 · 18/01/2026 20:59

Do you think this might be partly to do with the rise of AI as well?

Construction employment is at a 24 year low. Construction isn't affected by AI.

Good on Kemi!
Teanbiscuits33 · 19/01/2026 00:41

strawberrybubblegum · 19/01/2026 00:30

Construction employment is at a 24 year low. Construction isn't affected by AI.

Please could you link the source of this graph? I’ve just gone to the ONS website construction output dated 15th January 2026 and all that I can see there are mile long spreadsheets? It’s so long I can’t make head nor tail of it.

Teanbiscuits33 · 19/01/2026 00:46

strawberrybubblegum · 19/01/2026 00:30

Construction employment is at a 24 year low. Construction isn't affected by AI.

I found it.

Dr David Crosthwaite, chief economist at BCIS, said self-employment was almost 18% down on 2019 levels, reflecting retirements, Brexit and pandemic effects

Not denying there are other factors, but I think it’s quite unfair to lay all the blame at Rachel Reeves’ door here.

TeenagersAngst · 19/01/2026 06:48

I think the employer NICS was so damaging to certain sectors eg retail, because not only did the rate rise but the threshold fell. This increased the likelihood of more of your staff being included, especially part time.

So if you’re a small business employing mainly part time staff, probably women, you’ll have been badly hit.

The difference between this and the introduction of the minimum wage is that our economy is in a different place with higher running costs all round (energy for example) and low growth. So it’s understandable why some will choose not to hire another member of staff or let one go to balance the books.