Can Remainers explain this?

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If you are a Remainer who believes Britain needs to be part of the EU, can you just explain which country was the most powerful in the world in the 1800s?

Is that you Kemi?

Personally, I’m entirely in favour of making all decisions as if it were 1800.

Why not?

I think it was the Great White Eyeball Washers of 2025.They are our only hope.

Qing Empire

Ah, yes, an era notable for being able to buy and sell people as property. And put children in poor houses, up chimneys, down mines etc.

Is that you Jacob? Nanny called, it's way past your bed time.

I’m assuming this is the poster who appears to think his/her history degree is going to be about waxing nostalgic for the glory days of the British Empire?

No idea, I wasn’t born.

OP, are you suggesting that we should colonise other countries, rob them of their natural resources and exploit their people in order to create a captive market for British goods as a means of fixing the damage to our economy caused by the idiotic act of us leaving the European single market?

Which countries are you suggesting we should colonise, exactly, and how do you think your idea might go down with the locals in those countries?

I’ll only answer OP, if you explain why that fact is relevant in 2025?
Please also disclose if you feel systematic abuse and exploitation of the people and resources of conquered overseas nations is ok.
Thanks.

OP demonstrates the Ga Ga land thinking behind leave.

I think Prussia would like a word.

This. I started reading the whole thread (I know, it’s a slow start Saturday here) only to find @MrsBennetsPoorNervesAreBack has articulated it all perfectly.

I do sometimes ask myself whether if had lived in those times I’d have been perfectly happy with that approach. I like to think not but expect I’d have give sling with it like almost everyone else. Sigh.

Great idea OP. India is ripe for another plundering now they have a bigger economy than us. Wonder if they'll fall for that ' East India Company' ruse again?

Oh give over with your nostalgia for the glory days of the British Empire. You get your arse handed to you on a plate every time you start this nonsense.

Go read history properly and find out how ordinary people lived in the 1800s. It wasn't all Bridgerton frolics even in this country. Never mind the misery inflicted around the world as we took what we wanted wherever we went.

Well around then we could get a great trade deal with China by threatening tp bomb the shit out of them. Might be a risky option now though.

I suspect you're right and we should just drop engaging. They have posted a variation of this quite a few times this week, it's just goadyfuckerism now.

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Did you know that the EU didn't exist in the 1800s?

Also, time travel still hasn't been invented even in 2025.

Thanks for a great laugh on a dull and wet Saturday morning though. Brightened up my day.

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Britain, obviously. We had a whole empire without the bloody EU.

It doesn't stop pro-EU ideologues from stepping around a very simple question and attempting to make you feel stupid, though.

I'm not sure that even the most ardent leaver was proposing we leave and then start to rebuild an empire by invading other countries. Britain was powerful in 1800 because it had one of the largest empires in history.

Oh I dont know. Some were fairly keen on resolving the NI border problem by getting the RoI to become part of the UK!

Eyeball woman was awesome and joined in. This one has just plopped and run.

Not very sporting.

Very un-British, in fact. 😉

What point are you making, though?

Are you suggesting we invade other nations again?

Are you saying that the entirely different geographic, economic, political and technological landscape (not to mention all the people being long dead) between 1800 and 2025 is irrelevant?

Can you explain yourself at all, or are you capable only of slogans?

What’s the simple question? All I’ve seen is the plopping of a ludicrously complex question with the stink of ‘gotcha’ hovering around. I reserve the right to take the piss when people are that silly. Where’s my plantation?

We didn’t really have much of an empire in 1800. The US had just won the war of independence and India was not part of the Empire (the East India company was not the same thing). India became part of the empire with the Government of India Act 1858. France was the predominant superpower in Europe for the first decade or so of the 19th century.

Okay, but it’s 2025. Not 1800.