Luxury cars removed from the motability scheme

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https://news.sky.com/story/luxury-cars-removed-from-motability-scheme-ahead-of-budget-13475029

too little too late. As a full time worker I can’t afford to run a car, let alone a luxury car. Motability should be a standard car - available in automatic and manual, an option for wheelchair users, and that’s it.

I’d absolutely love for disabled people to get a healthy amount of benefits (I’ve never received any myself, which is fine and I’m lucky I don’t need them). But unfortunately given the state of the economy I’d much rather the money went towards improving the lives of disabled people who are barely scraping by instead of funding cars for those who can afford them without help.

I feel sorry really for disabled people right now who rely on Motability help, PIP and so on. The knives are out for their essential benefits and the harpies (as evidenced by this thread) cannot wait to descend and kick them when they are down even when they don't have a proper grasp on how these benefits work. Human nature can be so ugly.

Disabled people don’t get benefits because they’re poor, they get them because they’re disabled. Disability benefits are not means tested. It’s not confusing at all, it’s quite simple.

In a lot of cases, people with higher incomes are choosing motability because it reduces the cost of the adaptations needed for the car. Someone on a high income might be able to afford to lease a BMW from a "normal" supplier, but try finding a BMW adapted for someone unable to use their legs without going through Motability.

No one is being given a free car.

They don’t have a choice, unless you want people trapped in their homes. My friend has no choice but to pay for adaptions which included being able to remain in his wheelchair in his car, hand controls, sliding doors, an automatic boot opening etc. If he didn’t pay for his wheelchair he wouldn’t be able to leave his own bedroom, he cannot self propel, but apparently thats fine and he isn’t worthy of leaving a room on his own.

Surely in a time of austerity we should focus on financial support to those who need it. I don’t think anyone would object to helping people who need specialist vehicles being supported to have them.

Exactly. Woe betide any disabled person might have something nice to drive ! They don’t just give out BMW’s , if you decide that’s what you want there’s several thousands in advance payments to hand over.
We have a motability car, a fairly bog standard Renault, even that had an advance payment, which was our choice of course.

The question is do they need that support. Or would the money be better spent on those who need it more

Woe betide any working person wants a decent car? Oh we have to pull ourselves up by our boot straps and scrimp and save for one

The scheme should be for people who can't get about any other way and cannot afford a car.

Genuine need doesn't care about the brand. A car is a car. If people claiming PIP complain about this, then are they really and truly in need of a car and can't afford one? Or can they get by with a car and be grateful they're being given one in the first place?

That’s a fair point and I agree more money should be available for those with disabilities absolutely. That’s you’re genuine concern, but a lot of people don’t give a crap about disabled peope at all and aren’t bothered about helping the poorer ones either.

So if we're saying that disabled people getting financial assistance from the state to go towards mitigating the extra challenges and costs that they face should only get the very cheapest option possible and be grateful for it... what on earth are we doing paying child benefit as money into parents' bank accounts for them to spend as appropriate?

Surely this should be replaced with vouchers for Farm Foods ultra basic range foodstuffs - even for people who don't live anywhere near a branch of Farm Foods - and then only redeemable against items considered as 'absolutely essential' for survival from starving.

Why should MY taxes pay for YOUR child to eat anything that brings them any kind of pleasure beyond the knowledge that they are receiving sound basic nutrition?!

Outside of London, a lot of disabled people aren't getting free public transport.

Locally, you can get a concessionary pass which gives you free or discounted travel but only outside of peak times.

You do know "any working person" also includes disabled people?

Yet another ill-informed benefits bashing thread. I hope to God none of you against PIP/DLA/Motability ever become disabled and need financial support.

Weird how it isn’t scrimping and saving when people on PIP are having to go without to save for adaptations and advance payments every 3-5 years. Odd to pretend only the non-disabled are working people as well.

Have you ever met a disabled person? You certainly haven't spoken to one about driving.

whats being done for the young working people in this country?

I'd put your energy into looking into why your Mum is being ripped off. The leasing costs on a Toyota Yaris are nowhere near £500. I pay less than that for a Volvo.

This thread is shocking. The luxury cars are paid for by the claimant, the subsidy is only the same as a basic model. But obviously disabled people should only have the basics. People disgust me.

Would you prefer to have no legs? Would you swap? I bet you wouldn’t!!!

Well you could go and get a couple of limbs cut off, then you'd be entitled to a car as well. I'm sure you could find a body modification group who would assist.

So the way to help young working people is by taking away from disabled?

I don’t think it’s quite as simple as that. As a country, we do not have a bottomless pit of money. We need to make sure that everyone can have a decent standard of living, and the welfare state is an important part of that. The welfare state should absolutely provide a safety net for those less fortunate for whatever reason. As part of that, we need to make sure that the finite resources are used in the most effective and efficient way.

You know what they say…”follow the money”

1 in every 5 cars on the road is on the Motability Scheme.
Keeps car dealerships in business.
Keeps car sales stats inflated.
Gives a better overall impression of how the economy is performing.