Luxury cars removed from the motability scheme

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https://news.sky.com/story/luxury-cars-removed-from-motability-scheme-ahead-of-budget-13475029

too little too late. As a full time worker I can’t afford to run a car, let alone a luxury car. Motability should be a standard car - available in automatic and manual, an option for wheelchair users, and that’s it.

Does it matter how it works? The state will be in no position to finance anything soon.

Including Reform's Lee Anderson

Didn’t one of the Reform goons say disabled people should only have the old three wheelers

Yup because disabled people don’t deserve car safety.

Also sometimes the DLA/PIP process takes so long that you get a big backdated payment often this is used for the advance payment it’s not just disabled millionaires !

PIP isn’t an out of work benefit. It’s designed to cover the extra cost of living with a disability.. Are you suggesting that disabled people should have to live on the poverty line and be unable to save ?

I’m starting to think that actually is some posters’ position.

If you have a disability severe enough to qualify for the mobility element of PIP, make sure you claim before you reach state pension age. If you claim afterwards, you are only entitled to Attendance Allowance, which has no entitlement to the Motability scheme.

For awareness, sorry if this is a bit off topic.

cars can be adapted post lease.

It's long overdue, it should never have been allowed as we are a low trust society & the amount of gobshites defrauding PIP remains too high, gifting their 'motability' to their vile children ...yes, personal experience is dictating this, from observing the worst kind of people abusing the scheme, to seeing a dear relative forced through agonising hoops to perform for a pittance after being disabled by repeated assaults from an ex. We cannot have nice things because apparently not taking advantage of everything & everyone (particularly public money: this includes expense-account abusing politicians) makes us weak rather than decent.

Adapted & suitable vehicles only, no 'pay to drive an Audi on Mum's PIP).

DS qualifies for a motability car but we chose not to get one. Incidentally if we leased my current car via motability rather than PCP, it would cost me over £100 per month more.

This thread reminds me of when DS started school and I mentioned to another parent that he had full-time 1:1 support. She looked utterly baffled and asked why he needed support when Jessica was shorter than him. Jessica wasn’t even her child. She also didn’t have any disabilities. The same feeling of “I don’t need/qualify for this so you shouldn’t either” is certainly present on this thread. The difference though is that my son’s 1:1 support cost the taxpayer extra. A BMW doesn’t cost them any more than a Yaris does.

Precisely

I think unfortunately that's the way we are going. Labour are currently running the economy into the ground. At some point we will be unable to service our debt. I predict that once we go bust the state will only be able to fund the basics. Choices will need to be made. The state pension will be means tested. Benefits will be cut to the bone. And we wont be able to argue about Motability because that will be long gone.

Just saying what I think will happen on current form. The Budget might surprise us and cuts may be made. But I doubt it.

This thread is like watching a pack of starving hyenas fighting over a mangy carcass. People so scared there isn't enough good stuff for them they snatch it from disabled people in a survival of the fittest.
If you think you're not getting your dues for your hard work because you can't afford a BMW, then you need to look at who's exploiting you. Hint: it's not disabled people.

The state doesn’t finance motability beyond a VAT break available to all severely disabled people on equipment/vehicles they use, and an allowance that’s payable regardless of whether they use the scheme or not. I think the objection here is not the mobility allowance itself but the fact that it can be exchanged for a vehicle. You can’t possibly understand the value of the scheme unless you have a disability which severely affects your mobility.

We had similar from another school parent, they complained our son had an interpreter and hers didn’t, well your son isn’t deaf and doesn’t rely on sign language and lip reading.

I hope you’re as pragmatic when they come for child benefit and nursery fees.

This

Disabled people deserve to be able to live as close to equals in society as society can make it.

Means testing will be the way forward. No matter the merits sadly.

It will be carnage. Look at Greece, Argentina. Pensions I think and defence will be the priority.

You will be delighted to know then, that there are no Audis available on the Motability scheme.

Are you including WAVs in that?

@Snowonground
Do you have a crystal ball I can borrow? When is the decline and fall of the welfare benefits system please?
Will funded childcare go before the state pension?

You do
understand that the government doesn’t pay for the car don’t you? It’s paid for by forfeiting their disability benefits, not in addition to their benefits