Rachel Reeves can’t win, can she?

[anothervoter]

After days and days of negative press and chatter about income tax going up, complaints on Mumsnet and across the media, today’s reports are that idea might be dropped and now she’s being accused of rattling the markets and making the cost of borrowing increase.

Honestly, genuine question- what can she do?

So 0.7% growth under the Tories is "Turning things around" but the same under Labour is "an artificial bump"

Hear yourself!!!

All manifesto's say they will improve growth, Labour have had more growth than in the previous 18months prior to July 24.

Sunak gave away billions in business support loans fraudulently claimed, then wrote off the money, he also spent billions on EOTHO which was also money down the drain and helped spread the virus.
Money was also poured away on Furlough, whilst not supporting many of the self employed.
On top of all of that, he spent billions on HS2, before than cancelling it, at a cost of £29billion.

Thats 50% more than the current budget deficit.

Even Labour uttered you can’t tax your way to growth.

So why are they doing it?

Political and economic commentators being blunt this morning.

Rwanda maycwell not have worked, but scrapping it with nothing else in place other than a 'leave ut to us - we know better' attitude has not worked, hence crossings going up rather than down.
The VAT on school fees thing was really just a spiteful policy to 'get back' at a group they didn't agree with and i suspect is costing more than it is raising, Still, that taught those posh parents a lesson, which was the main point of the exercise,

While I agree with the fact we are in trouble, none of the countries you mention had a 'successful' austerity.

Why isn’t Germany successful in your view?

This my sound really unpopular and stupid but why can’t I come tax raise by a small amount that most people wouldn’t notice it but it would fund public services?

Lets say I pay £50 a more a year in income tax, I wouldn’t even notice it - I earn £32 k.

If income tax isn’t raised slightly, we all pay more for other things anyway.

As Kenneth Clarke said on Question Time recently, sometimes you have to give the nasty medicine first , but in the long run people can see you had to do it to make them better..

If I give the government an extra £50 a year and it means we can fund our public services then why not bloody do it and be done with it? In four years time at the next GE, Reeves can turn around and say yes we raised tax slightly, but look at what we did..

We want to treat sick people. We want to educate our children. We want to keep dangerous people in prisons. We want police officers on our streets.

It’s ridiculous to not raise income tax slightly for everyone if it means people pay more in other ways.

No government seems to want to raise income tax because they think it’s political suicide, instead they tinker round the edges and the can just kicks the can down the road.

But austerity didn’t even work did it ? In 2010 Osborne brought in massive cuts and -5 years later we’re still suffering from them.
Our prisons are understaffed and overcrowded, many experienced staff took early voluntary redundancy.
Our schools are falling apart.

It’s costing more to rebuild public services than it did to cut them.

Because even the tiniest rise leads to hysterical rhetoric about starving chikdren, freezing pensioners and 'hitting the poorest hardest'.
Your idea is far too sensible but 'Tax the rich' far more atteactive (as long as tge rich is not them)

Sunak's 40 million on helicopter contract which Starmer got rid of... so much waste by the tories. Am pretty sure 40 million a year would have been useful to a hospital somewhere.... pure vanity and greed from Sunak.

I agree about h the rhetoric, but most working people can afford a £1 a week!

Its the small increase in tax that would help stop pensioners freezing , children starving etc!

Because a tiny tax rise that nobody would miss , means we pay state pensions , pay for schools breakfast clubs, pay for kids school dinners ,pay for nurses..

Nobody can tell me that working people cant afford to pay £1 a week in taxes if it means we get a better country out of it !

People want public services but don’t want tax rises ?

The Tories got a heck of lot wrong. George Osborne is my least favourite chancellor second only to Rachel Reeves.

But it’s clear this Labour government and this Labour chancellor does not have a plan. If she did, she would have known not to say no more tax rises at last years budget. In fact, they should have just been honest with the country during the election campaign and said tax rises were coming. Because they clearly did not have a credible plan for growth.

I think most people will move on by the time Labour are up for a GE. People are annoyed with them now.

Reeves can’t raise taxes now because of what Labour promised! What will happen over this parliament, is cuts will happen but it won’t be called austerity.

Because there isn’t enough tax to pay for it.

Labour could have said , the country’s public services are in shit state but , we’ll make sensible small tax rises and turn the country around within the next five years.

People may have been more understanding.

Yes, the British public have very short memories and refuse to look at the cause of why we are in such a mess. The mainly right wing press do not help matters etiher. To expect any party to clean this up instantly is just crazy talk.

It’s just people who really like Labour who go back to that stuff and there aren’t many left.

I can remember seeing Deb Meaden from Dragons Den (on social media) saying that the amount of tax she paid went down under the tories. She said that she thought it was crazy and would be more than willing to pay more to help fix the country.

I wish Labour had been brave enough, then and now. Tax rises will be so low for most but it's the quickest way to get money, money we need for services that benefit us all. Unfortunately tax is a dirty word in the UK.

Sorry, don't understand your post.

You’re in the minority with the helicopter type posts. People have moved on. Labour is in power and messing up.

Yes, perhaps am one of the more intelligent ones who looks beyond soundbites!! Grins.
Labour are making mistakes but they're also doing things right. They don't seem to be hemorrhaging money on vanity projects either..

Really? Labour pretty much only have soundbites left.

She is Labour’s Liz Truss isn’t she 🙈

What are they doing right from your point of view?

https://fullfact.org/government-tracker/

Am fine with people being loyal to their political parties but I tend to work with facts.
You don't like labour - that's grand and your right, but you're not giving anything to the discussion by writing what you're writing.