What can an individual do to keep Reform out?

[Thepoliticsofchaos]

I have a young friend (a university student) who is getting depressed about the prospect of Reform getting in next election. He thinks that the UK is fucked, basically. He's left-leaning, I assume a Labour voter. I've advised him to get politically engaged (so that in the future he'll at least be able to feel that he did what he could). He's not the most outgoing of people, though is interested in politics. Can anyone suggest how he could become usefully politically engaged to try to reduce the Reform vote? Not just joining a party and turning up to meetings, but actually doing something?

Your suggestion that "the right seems only concerned about rape when it’s committed by black or brown people.".

That's obviously untrue.

If you care about all of them the first thing you would do is stop the immigration from misogynistic countries. You would say ‘we have enough misogynistic men to deal with here without adding in further high risk men’. Not ‘yeah let ‘em all in, we have some rapists here so what’s a few more’.

We can’t deport British men for rape, otherwise I would to a shark surrounded island. My job is very much involved with VAWG, although I don’t want to go into it on here. So yes I care about both, thank you very much. But let’s start at the root by preventing men from having any opportunity to rape whatsoever by ensuring those who shouldn’t be here, aren’t.

All men from wherever these “misogynistic countries” are cannot be assumed without evidence to be a risk.
Asylum seekers are individuals and human beings with globally enshrined rights. Denying an asylum claim because of the assumed national morality standards of an asylum
seeker (based on no personal evidence) would lead to a very easily winnable asylum appeal.
There are no simple sound but solutions to the asylum backlog, so keeping on processing more claims faster is the only way to clear it. In the meantime, treating people (from all sides of the argument) with compassion until we have an actual reason not to will help reduce the temperature of the debate.

You can use statistics though to better identify groups that have a higher rate of offending. That's not discrimination that's just use of facts. And obviously some groups are raised to have problems with women that might act in the way western women do (not covering themselves completely, walking unaccompanied by a male relative, shaking a man's hand, feeling equal to men, running in a fun run) and feel they are fair game. Surely it's better to know which cultures have these issues if only to better educate them as to appropriate behavior in UK society.

I wish you would just be honest and say "APPROVING asylum claims faster" instead of "processing", when that's what you clearly mean.

The UK is not fucked. There are still not many refugees roaming each and every street, the contryside genetical pool has not yet turned brown, there are still many many rich people here, still many many benefits given each and every month - go and live in another country for a change, preferably Asia, Africa or South America to see what fucked means

ps: the bold is meant to be said in ironic way
hence the edit

let me ask everyone a general question, one which no one has been asking on this site: so you are all very sure Tory will never ever ever ever do a strong come back? What makes you so so so so sure

I work in the building industry. The companies make millions - this country is being continually built upon - this is not a stagnated country no matter the bollocks and scare mongering on sm

People have been living with sm for decades now. You have never learnt the notion that sm is never the reality?

The reality is dictated not by posts on sm but by the decisions of the guys who hold the big bank accounts

I see such posts but there is not a single notion that he is going anywhere, at least this year or the next.

@OneAmberFinch I said processing because that’s what I mean. The faster an asylum claim is processed the less time the govt needs to house claimants. Either the claim gets denied and the individual is returned promptly or approved so they can work and pay tax. Nobody gains from keeping people in limbo for years unable to work while awaiting a decision.

Sadly, ‘normal views’ in Nazi Germany were pretty foul. Seems the same is happening here too.

Yes, it’s awful for Jewish people and such a worry.

I agree with that, but do you also accept that the answer needs to be "no" most or almost all of the time and that fast decisions will need to make this "no" judgement on the basis of broad group level identity?

Are Jewish people today particularly worried about the group of people getting called "Nazis, racist, far right" though?

Neo Nazism is on the rise both here in the UK and America as evidenced by that vile young Republican group chat. This group of far right Neo Nazi’s were planning to attack mosques and synagogues in the Uk
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c4gkm4jyrpdo

This is very much the approach of many members of the left regarding Rotherham. "Let's look at all rapes not just those committed by Pakistanis from specific tribes. Let's call out all paedophiles not just Pakistani muslims targeting poor white children"
Trying to dilute and distract. Luckily no one buys it anymore.

so the right are only concerned if it is brown people as its diluting and distracting otherwise

In the year ending June 2025, the UK rejected 53% of initial asylum applications.However, this figure can be misleading because many initial refusals are overturned on appeal; in 2024, 48% of appeals were allowed, meaning the final success rate for the overall process is significantly higher than the initial decision rate. In the year ending March 2025, the UK received 85,112 asylum applications.

the applications aren't simply being approved

No compute. What do you mean?

According to that source well over half of them are (and from what I remember from looking at these stats in the past, it varies significantly by country and for some it's much higher than that).

The question I have for everyone who says "just speed up processing" (also "just offer safe routes") is what do you plan to do to limit numbers to a sustainable figure, if anything? Or is it that if numbers of applications go up, we will simply continue to accept higher and higher numbers?

If that's not acceptable then either you need to reduce initial acceptance rate or reduce appeals.

"Speed up processing" is one of those things you say to keep the peace at a dinner party because it doesn't require you to have the courage of any convictions. Either straight up say you think it's fine to have unlimited numbers and open borders for neoliberal economic reasons, or explain at what point you'll actually be "mean" and say no to people.

FYI this doesn't have to be on national origin ground if you don't want to, although cutting off Albanians was quite good for the backlog; you could say there's a monthly cap and you simply refuse anyone after that, or there's a random lottery, or whatever.

I’m worried about Reform getting in too. I have some hope in the new Corbyn/Sultana Your Party which is full of energy and worth getting involved with. Your friend could explore that.

As I've said, my friend is gender critical. I remember Corybn being one of the first politicians to call transwomen women (though he didn't say it as though he believed it - it was about "being kind").

Apologies, I know it’s a Twitter link but seriously how can any woman or indeed any decent person want someone running our country who belittles women in such a patronising way. Press are there to challenge and ask questions. He didn’t like the way he was being questioned and he resorts to passive aggressive sexism to try to reduce her. It’s not ok, and it’s certainly not fucking ok for a God forbid potential PM.

https://x.com/nw_nicholas/status/1979316729089266008

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