Do Brits generally approve of the new compulsory national digital ID?

[MsAmerica]

I admit I don't know much about it, but I find it creepy.

Do you think it's in reaction to the immigrant problem, or what?

I’m fine without that. There’s things that I like for ease but as things are rn I don’t find anything onerous.

And not enough to pay for an expensive digital ID scheme which may use AI in some way for access.

There's a petition that reqires a parliamentry debate.
In China if you talk against the government you can't get on a train, you can't buy food or fuel.
Why should we hand a government the power to do this?

'Do not introduce digital ID cards' if anyone would care to sign it.

This is BIG news! So the company who will be providing the IDs has already been chosen. Talk about corruption.

Tony Blair and the Tony Blair institute have been pushing digital ID cards for years, unsurprising that his sons company is primed for this kind of work.

It stinks.

If it is possible to check the digital ID against the central database of IDs, forgery would be harder.

Sounds like a money making scheme and someone close to the government is going to get very rich

Exactly. Someone is about to become very wealthy and it’ll be a waste of tax payers money

Not really from what I have seen and heard. My main concern is who will get the contract and what they will do with the data.

Yep, Euan Blair. Like father, like son. Although, I haven't yet heard an official source for this - for the moment it's still angry speculation.

Lest we forget, the same Euan Blair who got very drunk just after his exams, was picked up by the police, and gave them a false name and address. (Well, to be fair, who would have believed "Euan Blair, 10 Downing Street"?)

So we’re judging someone on the mistakes they made when they were 16 some 25 years after the event. I hope your teenage behaviour was impeccable @scalt. Mine certainly wasn’t.

Thank God,sounds like a normal student

edit of the time ,now they are teetotal or drug takers 😂

Link to UK Government & Parliament petition
“Do not introduce Digital ID cards”

please sign and share
currently standing at 2,664,055

petition.parliament.uk/petitions/730194

The petition has had a response.

Basically the government have said "tough shit we're introducing it". They have said it won't be compulsory, but will be required for several things such as the right to work. Employers will have to do "right to work checks" therefore anyone wanting to work in the UK will need to have one.

I feel fuming as would like them to have at least acknowleged the huge number of signatures the petition gained and the clear outcry for a proper consultation on the matter.

I think it’s a great idea.

Well at a very basic level in those countries the police have a right to ask you for ID and you are obliged to comply. Failure to comply can result in detention. In the UK the police have no right to ask you for ID unless they believe you have committed a crime. I see no reason why a member of of the public going out their business needs to justify that to anyone. Particularly given the level of misuse of power already present in the UK police, and an increasingly authoritarian government!

They have said they will do a consultation:

We will launch a public consultation in the coming weeks and work closely with employers, trade unions, civil society groups and other stakeholders, to co-design the scheme and ensure it is as secure and inclusive as possible. Following consultation, we will seek to bring forward legislation to underpin this system.
Department for Science, Innovation and Technology

No lots of people do not approve and I can't see it going ahead

This is the bit I need help with. It all sounds a bit too conspiracy-theory-ish. Surely this is misuse of data?!

The ID is to simplify proving who YOU are - it doesn't mean all your data is linked to your ID so anyone can access it. YOU can access your information. GDPR rules mean other people generally can't. The ID will simply contain:

• name
• date of birth
• information on nationality or residency status
• a photo

Yes its almost the same as a passport - but not everyone has a passport. Not everyone has a driving licence. Most people have a phone though - and I guess the consultation will decide how to manage for those people who don't. We have not turned into North Korea just yet. And doing business with Europe will include complying with GDPR rules.

It's undoubtedly a response to the flag shaggers rioting in the streets and hanging flags all over the rough areas of every town.

They wanted something to prove their status as Brits, so here it is.

Now they are all sad because so many of them work cash in hand and they're worried they might finally have to pay proper tax.

That's my reading of it.

If it makes the tax cheats who want to chant outside hotels sweat for a bit, them let them worry about it, I say.

Important information for those who see the risks of Digital ID and wish to avoid it.

P

Finding it impossible to load videos warning about Digital ID.

So rather than posting links I suggest you visit Black Belt Barrister and Miles Harris both on YouTube.

Finding it impossible to load videos warning about digital ID? That in itself is a warning. Is somebody trying to hide something? There were not many videos about the harms of lockdown. How convenient.

The biggest issue will be the Government's competency in procuring a system that actually works, because it won't scope it correctly, it won't lock the design and it will perpetually move the goal posts.

There is zero chance of a functioning system being in place by the end of this Parliament - and the overspend will be enormous.

Lets not forget that the following failures:

The Department of Health wasted £10bn on the National Programme for IT in the NHS, then canned it.
The £1bn System to pay benefits via a card was canned without delivering anything
The Post Office spent £600m on Horizon - and we know how that panned out. This is also a stark reminder of what happens when you put in a system and people believe its infallible...
The Home Office project for nine purpose-built regional control centres linked by a new IT system cost £469m, took seven years and delivered nothing
The £9.3bn communications system for police, ambulance and fire services, was late, £3.1bn over budget [49%] and may never work as originally intended
A prisons IT system escalated from £234m to £690m and even then the National Audit Office described the system as “ultimately unsuccessful”
The MoDs Defence Information Infrastructure should have cost £2.3bn. It turned out to be £7.1bn

And they are just the ones I have come across... I think we are safe from actually being forced to have a digital ID any time soon :)