Labour - Buyer’s Remorse?

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A simple question for those of you who voted Labour at the last GE - tactically or for the first time etc., (not those of you who are dyed in the wool socialists).

How are you now feeling about your decision, honestly?

I very nearly voted for them, but I’m so glad I didn’t !! Empty promises ….

How an earth are Labour meant to turn the ship around in one year after the Tories have pillaged the country for the past 14 years? Give them a term in office at least.

You’ll really see the shit hit the fan when Reform get in.

No buyers remorse for me. Happy with my vote and would still vote Labour again. Haven't agreed with everything 100% and personally I'd like Starmer to be a bit more forceful.

The media have been negative towards the Govt from day 1, so there's been a negative spin put on everything.

I'm starting to see an improvement in some areas so I'm hopeful that things will continue to improve.

For me, there's no alternative - Tories or Reform would be just more disaster, and 14yrs of incompetence was enough.

It’s terrible and terrifying in equal measure- Labour never added to their manifesto that they would attack the most vulnerable in society. My son has a high level of need. Every single medical diagnosis and educational support has been a fight, huge wait lists, legal battles to get the council to give my son his right to education. Labour so ant to get rid of tribunals so parents have no redress to outrageous council decisions, remove ECHPs from autistic, mental health issues and language disorders, anyone who has an EHCP can not attend mainstream schools. All of these potential reforms have been discussed at some level, so I dread to see what they actually come up with in October. And it’s going to be horrendous because their goal is to slash spending to prevent children from accessing funding as opposed to reforming a broken system, which from my personal experience it definitely is.

I am a socialist, but these policies are not socialism- this is not a service government. This is a ladies faire government who are uncaring, robotic sociopaths.

Definitely no remorse, but a degree of frustration at the number of unforced errors the Labour government has made.

The changes to winter fuel may have been the right thing to do economically, but politically they were a disaster. So much reputational damage for a trivial amount of money. Labour completely messed up some very minor but necessary welfare reforms resulting in a back bench rebellion which means that is now off the agenda for this parliament.

And where they needed to be bold & radical, eg house building, they have been infuriatingly slow & cautious.

Above all, of course, is immigration. Labour’s total failure to get a grip of the problem has alienated millions of white working class people who can’t afford to stay in the hotels which are used to accommodate migrants in what they see as luxury and that their taxes are paying for. They believe Labour ignores their concerns, despises their values and gives illegal immigrants preferential treatment so they will vote Reform at the next election. Immigration is tearing Labour apart, because the views of the white working class and those of the university educated liberal left are on different planets, and the leadership are failing.

No buyer’s remorse here. I didn’t vote Labour because I expected amazing things from them but more because I wanted the godawful last lot of Tories out. So just achieving that has been worthwhile in my book.

They haven’t covered themselves in glory in terms of achievements but at least they do appear to be trying to do the right thing for the right reasons - unlike the previous few administrations.

The one downside of Labour ousting those Tories is that it unfortunately boosts Reform’s chances of success next time.

I know it's a very convenient smokescreen used extensively on MN, but The Tories Were/Would Be Worse does not really answer the question of how well Labour are doing, as they are the ones actually in charge

No but it does answer the question of “do you regret your vote”

YES!!! They spent so much time crowing and bragging about how we'd all be living in total utopia with their perfect ideas and costed plans and bold brave new world.

And have spent the last months since whinging they "didn't know" this or that and how the other was unexpected - but whatever it is, it is never, ever, ever their fault. Like a bunch of petulant toddlers.

Shouldn't have made the promises then, should they? Could have said "look, we don't know what mess we're going to find, sorry, can't make any big claims yet"

This party are less shit than the alternative. Not exactly a ringing endorsement, is it.

The whole election was very much one that the Tories lost, and Labour got in because of that. It wasn't a 1997-style "Yeah! Change! Great! Woo-hoo!" massive endorsement experience.

YES!!! They spent so much time crowing and bragging about how we'd all be living in total utopia with their perfect ideas and costed plans and bold brave new world.

What a load of codswallop. Maybe you could supply a link to all that crowing and bragging? I won’t hold my breath.

I didn't vote for them, but am delighted the Conservatives were voted out. Every time I thought they couldn't make anything worse, they did. Brexshit cost me my career, the Trussterfuck very nearly cost me my house. Pensions are in tatters, economy ruined, our standing on the world stage vastly diminished, NHS underfunded for years, lining the pockets of their mates, public services in tatters etc. I don't think I need to go on.

Labour didn't win, as much as the Conservatives lost, but as someone upthread said, they are the least worst.

On to Starmer. He isn't dynamic, but I don't dislike him. They have made the right decisions with the wrong bar, and shot an own goal with the fiscal rules. WFA is exactly the right thing to do but with a higher cut off. Benefits also need a complete reform. Most things need a complete reform, but they have to eat the elephant a bite at a time. Seeing the changes start is a good thing. Waiting lists are down, public services are getting more funding, NHS reform is beginning, asylum processing is increasing and more failed applicants are being returned than previously.

Fixing the shitshow he inherited will take ages, and I quite like the fact that he is substance over showboating. Blair was all about the sound bites, but I don't think that even features in Starmer's consciousness. I like that.

I don't want ten PM's in five years, I don't want a revolving cabinet. I want ownership. They'll make mistakes because it is an inexact science. All of us in their position would make mistakes. It is how they handle it and move forward that interests me most.

And, as someone else says, if you really want to see a country more fucked up than it is now, you only need to vote Reform in the next election to see it.

The Cons had 14 years, 10 of those, there were no crisis, other than of their own making ie Brexit.

2 terms is enough, they had 3 and messed up everything, not a single thing is better from 2010.

Its totally unfair to judge any party after 1 year, have they made mistakes, of course but i will base my next vote over the next 4 years.

Brexit and the leave campaign of lies
Truss
proroguing parliament
covid parties and generalised rule breaking
contracts for mates
all the lies

vs
New deal with Europe
reduced tariffs from Trump
massive investment in science and tech
NHS investment and more doctors apps
investment in renewables

No regrets.

Hmm...
Do you think you may perhaps be cherry picking and oversimplifying a bit there maybe? 😂

Well said. It's so easy to slam everything without actually recognising some of the good that is going on.

But that wasn’t the question that was asked? The question was do you regret voting for them now, and the answer to that can be anything the answerer wishes.

Very similar to lots of the others. We had absolute chaos under the Tories, in comparison Keir Starmer is a safe pair of hands

However I don’t think they’re brave enough in tackling inequality and taxing wealth. Something needs to give on that front to give people who have nothing a break. If this doesn’t happen then fully expect to have Farage in next with the economic chaos he will bring, and the descent towards fascism. I am currently wondering how we as a family prepare for the economic policies he’d bring in (thinking Truss and her budget).

Also I do think Starmer is placating the anti immigration lobby too much. I’m disappointed by some of the language used on that topic.

Dyed in the wool socialists? Do/did they vote Labour anyway?

Anyone but the Tories continues to hold true!

OP, I don’t think that many people are going to admit to ‘buyers remorse’. Labour are completely fucking it up and no-one wants to admit that they voted for that. I can’t wait until they’re gone. And no, I didn’t vote for them. I’m a lifelong Tory voter who finally decided that they weren’t deserving of my vote so voted Liberal Democrat. Not sure who I’ll vote for in the next GE but it 💯 won’t be Labour.

Do you genuinely believe they're worse than the last lot? I don't know what paper you read but it's clearly one that's ignoring absolutely anything positive from this government.

Plenty do but as i said earlier, 1 year isn't long enough.

Changes i like, more medical staff at my local Neuro unit, my friend is getting the therapy she has waiting 18m for - direct result of an extra 28bn going to nhs.

Partner booked PSA test direct through new NHS app, instead of phones calls appointments etc

3 major resurfacing projects happening in my council area, this time last year we were all told "no funds"

Labour gave more money to councils for this.

I feel they’re doing an extremely difficult job within an environment of a media who would rather highlight Farrage rather than reporting on anything good the govt are doing.

Also a lot of the population are impatient and expected problems in the NHS/Police/council services/immigration etc all to be solved very quickly. That was never going to happen.

However unless Labour change things significantly within the next few years Reform will sadly win the next election. That of course will be a disaster for our country.

Absolute rubbish! They constantly said they didn’t know the full details of the finances of the country.