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Jeremy Corbyn setting up a new party

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ninjahamster · 03/07/2025 20:40

With Zarah Sultana.

Interesting. .

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HarkerandBarker · 04/07/2025 00:08

FruityCider · 03/07/2025 23:30

Corbyn has never expressed support for the regimes and their actions. This narrative that he 'supports' them comes from them calling representatives 'friends' when they came to visit in 2009. This was to sustain diplomatic relations and he has repeatedly clarified that and expressed regret for the language over and over. He's also obviously not the first politician to meet with/welcome representatives from countries which have abhorrent human rights records/committed war crimes etc. They all have, and all have to.

He is a diplomatic-talk-absolutist. He understands that in order to obtain peace, you don't talk to your friends, you talk with your enemies, to semi-quote Desmond Tutu.

He has been known to go to Pro-palestine protests and stands proudly with the crowd.
I don't think any MP should be able to go to protests and act like a celebrity. He's our MP and personally can't see what he's done for his constituents. He's very biased. Since going independent, he's alienated so many of his core labour voters so doubt he'll ever become PM.

MissyB1 · 04/07/2025 00:13

HarkerandBarker · 04/07/2025 00:08

He has been known to go to Pro-palestine protests and stands proudly with the crowd.
I don't think any MP should be able to go to protests and act like a celebrity. He's our MP and personally can't see what he's done for his constituents. He's very biased. Since going independent, he's alienated so many of his core labour voters so doubt he'll ever become PM.

Im glad he goes to pro palestine marches, why shouldn't he?

HarkerandBarker · 04/07/2025 00:19

Hazlenuts2016 · 03/07/2025 22:19

Probably bankrolled by someone linked to Reform as it will mean they get in next time for sure.

I'm no fan of Jeremy Corbyn but that's a daft thing to say if you knew much about Jeremy. He's a socialist through and through. I doubt he would go against his core values which have not changed since day dot of him getting into parliament. Not everyone has little to no integrity, even if he's not someone you agree with, he's never changed his core values.He lives in a council property which he must have bought but has never chased riches! Reform will get in without his help. You'll have Labour to blame for that!

FruityCider · 04/07/2025 00:20

HarkerandBarker · 04/07/2025 00:08

He has been known to go to Pro-palestine protests and stands proudly with the crowd.
I don't think any MP should be able to go to protests and act like a celebrity. He's our MP and personally can't see what he's done for his constituents. He's very biased. Since going independent, he's alienated so many of his core labour voters so doubt he'll ever become PM.

He's been very consistent in his support for a free Palestine and peace in the region. That's true. Especially since the renewed genocidal actions from Israel. He's been very consistent in his anti-war, pro-diplomacy stance in general.

I guess fair enough if you haven't seen much in your local area. I worked for a few years in a couple schools serving deprived or very low income areas, and both were very appreciative of his personal support and visible advocacy for them. That's where I'm getting that from.

HarkerandBarker · 04/07/2025 00:23

MissyB1 · 04/07/2025 00:13

Im glad he goes to pro palestine marches, why shouldn't he?

Because he's am MP for Islington. I also said no MP should go to protests and act like celebrities when their own constituency is going down the pan. I won't be voting for him.

HarkerandBarker · 04/07/2025 00:25

FruityCider · 04/07/2025 00:20

He's been very consistent in his support for a free Palestine and peace in the region. That's true. Especially since the renewed genocidal actions from Israel. He's been very consistent in his anti-war, pro-diplomacy stance in general.

I guess fair enough if you haven't seen much in your local area. I worked for a few years in a couple schools serving deprived or very low income areas, and both were very appreciative of his personal support and visible advocacy for them. That's where I'm getting that from.

Can't deny that he was respected once upon a time.

Monicaca · 04/07/2025 00:28

HarkerandBarker · 04/07/2025 00:23

Because he's am MP for Islington. I also said no MP should go to protests and act like celebrities when their own constituency is going down the pan. I won't be voting for him.

I dare say the people of Gaza needs more support than the people of Islington right now. I respect him and would vote for him.

FruityCider · 04/07/2025 00:29

HarkerandBarker · 04/07/2025 00:23

Because he's am MP for Islington. I also said no MP should go to protests and act like celebrities when their own constituency is going down the pan. I won't be voting for him.

Not going to protests or standing up for what he believes in would be inconsistent with his values and what he believes in. He's been fighting for peace since day one. What does act like a celebrity mean? Engaging with your constituents? Being photographed? Giving interviews? Making yourself visible? You can't see why a politician would want to do that?

HarkerandBarker · 04/07/2025 00:37

Monicaca · 04/07/2025 00:28

I dare say the people of Gaza needs more support than the people of Islington right now. I respect him and would vote for him.

Platitudal response.

FruityCider · 04/07/2025 00:39

And his constituency, or at least the part of the constituency that I know, is going down the pan because of sweeping cuts to essential local services, rising costs of living, astronomically high housing prices. That's not on him.The community I know is saved only by hard working volunteers and determined local people, using what resources they have. JC has always stood up for the people who need him to.
I'm not sure what part of Islington you know, I'm not there now, but if I was there I'd vote for him every time.

HarkerandBarker · 04/07/2025 00:39

FruityCider · 04/07/2025 00:29

Not going to protests or standing up for what he believes in would be inconsistent with his values and what he believes in. He's been fighting for peace since day one. What does act like a celebrity mean? Engaging with your constituents? Being photographed? Giving interviews? Making yourself visible? You can't see why a politician would want to do that?

That's the point. He's biased and doesn't represent all his constituents.

HarkerandBarker · 04/07/2025 00:44

FruityCider · 04/07/2025 00:29

Not going to protests or standing up for what he believes in would be inconsistent with his values and what he believes in. He's been fighting for peace since day one. What does act like a celebrity mean? Engaging with your constituents? Being photographed? Giving interviews? Making yourself visible? You can't see why a politician would want to do that?

Why didn't Keir keep him then if he's so great?

inkognitha · 04/07/2025 00:57

I think that's great news for Labour. I can't really understand JC's reasons or timing tbh.

The pro-JC, Iraq, Gaza are often IMHO also the gender groupies, the cancel culture, the anti-imperialists, no-platforming ones. May they all leave in a huff, plateau at 10-12% at best on a sunny day and squabble with all the other groupuscules.

Free from their Marmite influence, Labour may have a chance to reconnect with the rest of the country. Coalitions can be made with the LibDems, Green or Conservative to keep Farage out.

FruityCider · 04/07/2025 01:02

HarkerandBarker · 04/07/2025 00:39

That's the point. He's biased and doesn't represent all his constituents.

Politicians shouldn't believe in things. Shouldn't have an opinion one way or the other? Just to clarify, is that what you mean?

He seems to represent and serve his constituency just fine. Which why they keep voting for him, for decades. Noone be everything for everyone, true. But certainly for the last 40 years, he's tried his best for as many people as he can.

ladeedarrrmmy · 04/07/2025 01:05

Absolutely fantastic news.

maltravers · 04/07/2025 01:06

Getting rid of the student politics woke bro loonies who sew division with their identity politics Top Trumps - that is a tempting thought, but like others, I’m concerned splitting the vote will let Reform in.

AnneLovesGilbert · 04/07/2025 01:07

Monicaca · 04/07/2025 00:28

I dare say the people of Gaza needs more support than the people of Islington right now. I respect him and would vote for him.

What’s he going to do for the people of Gaza that’ll make a real difference?

Christ0nABike · 04/07/2025 01:13

Corbyn always looks like he’s just shuffled out of the caretakers cupboard.

I mean, we really do need a new party, but hopefully this isn’t it.

SummerFrog25 · 04/07/2025 01:26

EasternStandard · 03/07/2025 21:49

Why so @SummerFrog25just out of interest

Because if it's not true & they're not starting a new party we won't have to hear his complete bollocks along with sultana & Abbot. I had hoped never to hear that dreadful woman drone in again OR JC and the shite he spouts.

however. Sadly there's more in the news now so maybe thst p it sated got it a bit wrong??

FeistyCat · 04/07/2025 05:50

TheFormidableMrsC · 03/07/2025 21:22

I have a lot of respect for her. I think she’s wonderful.

She is scum. She is anti-womens rights. I have zero respect for her. And Corbyn is a vile malevolent racist.

FeistyCat · 04/07/2025 05:52

To re-post what I said elsewhere; "YABU Corbyn is a vile racist and Sultana is anti-womens rights. They are both absolute garbage people. I would vote for them very last before any other group. They're scum. If they are the answer, the question is beyond deplorable."

applegingermint · 04/07/2025 05:53

FruityCider · 04/07/2025 00:04

Islington, where he's MP. He worked/works closely with local schools, community centres, is out and about listening to his constituents constantly. He deals with with matters personally and gets his hands dirty. He represents and fights for his (my old) community with heart and soul.

Lived there for a long time in the deprived bit (ie a few streets from his house) and never saw nor heard of him. The man’s effectiveness is more of an urban myth than any reality.

And ultimately he doesn’t really care about his constituents because he took the Labour Party into an election that was there for the taking, and messed it up, leaving them exposed to 4 more years of Conservative policy. He also decided to bugger off on holiday during the Brexit campaign and generally made a piss poor effort, something that has again hurt his constituents.

Someone who was about the greater good wouldn’t have such a big ego on them.

FeistyCat · 04/07/2025 05:56

TheFormidableMrsC · 03/07/2025 21:58

I have zero interest in trans issues.

It's about womens rights. Not 'trans issues'.

Hazlenuts2016 · 04/07/2025 06:26

@HarkerandBarker I know he is a man of principle, but donors arent always transparent and it could be someone linked to Reform. The reality is it will split the labour vote and let Reform in. I am very dissapointed with the current govt but this country will go to complete ruin with Reform. Labour are doing a crap job and will contribute to their own downfall. But Reform will be catastrophic. Last time Jeremy let Boris in because he is stubbourn and unelectable. I don't think he actually wants to be prime minister. He just wants to be an activist and stir things up.

GentleSheep · 04/07/2025 06:49

Corbyn's isn't the only new party, there's now Advance UK formed on 25 June by Ben Habib (ex-Reform party). Meanwhile Rupert Lowe, also ex-Reform, has launched the 'Restore Britain' party! All these will just fracture the votes across many parties and bingo the Tories will be back. Although at this point perhaps that's not a bad thing!