So everyone keeps going on about 'the mess the tories made'. Could you be a bit more specific about what exactly you think is a mess, and what Labour are doing to fix it?
I genuinely can't see it.
The main mess I think the Tories made is allowing immigration to rise so steeply. That really is a mess, but happened very quickly and I think took the Conservatives by surprise (just as the huge influx in 2004 after we opened our borders to the EU took Blair by surprise). Sunak made changes in his 18 months in power which did bring legal immigration down a bit, but Starmer has done nothing effective since so it's rising again. Labour also cancelled Rwanda, which might have been our best chance to slow illegal immigration, which is increasing. Labour are not responding to the social impacts of the fast-growing male asylum hostels - usual Labour denial and gaslighting.
Brexit? That was a referendum, and the choice of the population, not the Tories. When I see the current unrest about immigration - with the political class again not listening to the lived consequences on the working class - I see now that the Brexit referendum did need to happen, even though I didn't like the result. A middle class, urban elite can't impose their ideological views on the rest of the country. Cameron was PM and campaigned hard against Brexit. What did Corbyn (who was Labour leader at the time) do? He refused to even say what he thought, let alone campaign! He could have made a difference. Brexit is at least as much on Labour as Conservatives - but was perhaps inevitable.
Funding for public services? Still went up throughout the Conservatives time, just not as much as the Left want. For me, the mess the Tories made is that public spendingc didn’t go down as a % of GDP. But even for those who think state services need funding to increase at ever-faster rates, Labour are making things worse. Doctors are striking again. Schools have had to absorb unfunded teacher pay rises, NI and NMW rises under Labour. A bowl of cornflakes isn't what the education sector needs.
The economy? Under Sunak, it was starting to pick up after the huge global challenges of Covid and the Ukraine war. Labour stamped all over those green shoots though, with the NI increase, more spending, and an inability to get the slightest Welfare cuts through. Reeves caused a not dissimilar drop in the bond market to Truss, and employment for young people is through the floor.
"Sorting out the Tory mess" is just a Labour soundbite. Do please tell me what they've actually done. I've seen their paper, so please don't just link that: there's nothing in there but empty grandstanding about what they've 'committed'. I want to know what they've actually achieved. Even just green shoots and good starts would do. But there's nothing.