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Is it clear WW3 is coming, do I just spend?

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Starrynight999 · 25/06/2025 15:05

so It’s very clear WW3 is coming and tbh I’m a anxious wreck! Part of me wonders do I just max out my credit cards etc and just get stuff and enjoy everythIng with my kids whilst we can before the inevitable happens?

OP posts:
Vaxtable · 25/06/2025 17:46

@Starrynight999

why exactly is it clear ww3 is on its way?

I don’t see a ww3

Helpmeplease2025 · 25/06/2025 17:47

SnoopyPajamas · 25/06/2025 17:45

I'm generally of your mindset. I can clock a pot-stirrer at twenty paces, and we've had a rash of them lately.

That said, there are times when even I have to concede: the world is full of ninnies. Chock full of them. Blithering about all sorts 😂

Some people love nothing more than a panic.

❤️❤️❤️ for ‘ninnies’

Haven’t heard that in years

BangersAndGnash · 25/06/2025 17:48

Yeah, go for it OP!

Not much point in buying 'stuff' though - I'd do champagne and holidays (avoiding any risky places, obv) ....and might as well stuff myself with ice cream and crisps because there's no longer any need to worry about getting fat!

AInightingale · 25/06/2025 17:50

No please don't go mad spending. I don't think WW3 is coming but an oil shock looks inevitable, why would you want to be broke and in debt for the winter ahead? Bracing myself for higher energy and food prices, but not that worried about Iran, and I think America's action was warranted, they cannot be allowed to develop nuclear weapons.

DinaofCloud9 · 25/06/2025 17:51

Morgenrot25 · 25/06/2025 17:27

Again, you're entitled to your view.

I know I am.

SnoopyPajamas · 25/06/2025 17:53

Helpmeplease2025 · 25/06/2025 17:47

❤️❤️❤️ for ‘ninnies’

Haven’t heard that in years

They're making a comeback 😂

WonderingWanda · 25/06/2025 17:54

Op the reality is that this conflict in the middle east is likely to impact us in fairly dull, inconvenient and expensive ways. Our government is upping defence spending so eventually the costs will pass on to us.

Energy prices will likely go up at some point....they always do when there's conflict in the middle east...nothing new there....and then food and everything else will follow.

A threat the government continues to worry about is the impact of hackers. They could disable systems and disrupt key things like the energy network or food supply chains.

So rather than spending up on your credit cards do something sensible like ensure you have a bit of spare cash stashed in the house. Some candles and blankets in case of power cuts and if you can afford it a little camping stove so you can still heat food in a power cut. Then look at whether your kids winter coats will fit next winter....if not look on vinted or in summer sales for the next size up.

DyslexicPoster · 25/06/2025 18:02

Not unless your maxing the credit cards on loo roll, pot noodles and bottled water.

WW3 isn't a certain for being imminent. Plus what if doesn't kill you and your still here in 15 years with a shit ton of debt and no credit rating? How would buy a car etc? No finance, all your cash going on repayments?

We could all be wiped out by a curveball like the south sea anomaly. No point worrying about every single catastrophe.

Spoiler. We are all going to die. War or not. Everyone. 100% certain.

Manxexile · 25/06/2025 18:14

Starrynight999 · 25/06/2025 16:00

It’s just so hard to Ignore what looks like is coming.in my head WW3 is going to be a nuclear apocalypse of course it is.. with big players like Russia, china and US we will get
involved because we are part of nato..

We aren't even remotely close to WW3.

The closest we've been in my lifetime (and I was alive during the Cuban missile crisis) was exercise Able Archer in 1983, and I had never even been aware of that until I watched Deutschland '83 in 2016!

Able Archer 83 - Wikipedia

Grow up and stop worrying!

(Or if you can't stop worrying and want to prepare for the apocalypse, read Raymond Briggs' "When the Wind blows" or better still watch the cartoon. That'll cheer you up. Not))

Able Archer 83 - Wikipedia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Able_Archer_83

HonestOpalHelper · 25/06/2025 18:33

Starrynight999 · 25/06/2025 15:05

so It’s very clear WW3 is coming and tbh I’m a anxious wreck! Part of me wonders do I just max out my credit cards etc and just get stuff and enjoy everythIng with my kids whilst we can before the inevitable happens?

OP, Russia is bogged down in Ukraine, they haven't won there yet, and even if they do there is no suggestion they would look to push into Europe - there are historical reasons why they want Ukraine.

There have been wars in the Middle East forever, every now and again one dictatorship falls and another is formed - what is happening is tragic on the human level but not going st start ww3.

There is nothing that looks to have any potential to do that - these conflicts may hack knock on consequences, terrorist attacks, increased fuel prices, refugees.

So don't spend the banks money, they will still be there to ask for it back!

Bear in mind that even in the analogue days of ww2 banks here and in Germany chased up debts accrued during the war afterwards, people tried it then in a smaller way - now its all in the cloud the debt will still be there long after any war is done!

Gonners · 25/06/2025 18:34

In the mid-70s I worked in Hannover and a woman I'd known since our schooldays was an army wife on a nearby base about 80km from the East German border. During one of the many "The Russians Are Coming!" flaps, the wives were told that if the Russian tanks rolled across the border they should throw the kids in the car, drive 500km to the Hook of Holland and get a ferry to Harwich.

That might have been A Cunning Plan, except that the husbands, being men, drove the family cars to the barracks every day. So they would have had to abandon their duties, drive home and then presumably walk back.

Everyone treated this plan with all the seriousness that it deserved.

Imbusytodaysorry · 25/06/2025 18:37

Calliopespa · 25/06/2025 17:30

Are people really getting in necessities? I’m not criticising just genuinely wondering.

I can see how we’ve had some escalating news but honestly wasn’t thinking “ horde loo roll.”

What would you do if you power went out for three days ? As our stations had been attacked

No wifi . No online . not tv ? No heating ?
what would be your means of cooking?

cash
wireless radio
water
pasta (for example ) Non perishable

Uricon2 · 25/06/2025 19:07

Well, I'd be utterly fucked without power because my DHs hospital bed would pack up, but as I'm not exactly going to get a generator sorted just in case, I'd just have to wing it.

I lived through a fair chunk of the Cold War (vividly remember the nonsense that was Protect and Survive) as well as other conflicts and the extent of my "prepping" is a small amount of tinned/long life food (in case of normal power cuts, snow etc) and a bottle of brandy. I may make that 2 bottles, go me.

Calliopespa · 25/06/2025 19:13

Imbusytodaysorry · 25/06/2025 18:37

What would you do if you power went out for three days ? As our stations had been attacked

No wifi . No online . not tv ? No heating ?
what would be your means of cooking?

cash
wireless radio
water
pasta (for example ) Non perishable

Of that list I only actually have pasta right now. 😬

Shetlands · 25/06/2025 19:38

Imbusytodaysorry · 25/06/2025 18:37

What would you do if you power went out for three days ? As our stations had been attacked

No wifi . No online . not tv ? No heating ?
what would be your means of cooking?

cash
wireless radio
water
pasta (for example ) Non perishable

Battery radio
Wood burning Stove - could put a pan on it
Surrounded by farms so plenty of eggs, milk & fresh food available
Friend has a generator (as do all of the farms and several homes)
Plenty of boats around here so we'd get fresh fish if we wanted it.
Winter storms sometimes knock out the power so we've always got tons of candles, lanterns, torches, batteries etc
We could survive for a while (and huddle together in the village pub - they have a couple of huge log fires, their own generator and loads of booze!)

Gonners · 25/06/2025 20:31

Calliopespa · 25/06/2025 19:13

Of that list I only actually have pasta right now. 😬

😀Without power and water, lots of luck with pasta!

Holluschickie · 25/06/2025 20:34

Pasta is all I have too. I live in London: no space for generators and hens and large cans of water.

Horton · 25/06/2025 23:21

You don't need a generator. You need a way of recharging essentials - there are many power banks available and if you google 'portable power station' it's easy to find some relatively easy solutions that will power things you need like phones, rechargeable lighting, radios etc for quite some time, and you can often also recharge these with solar too. You can get perfectly ordinary solar power banks for ~£40 which will at least give you a few phone charges if needed.

You need a way of eating if there is no power. For those with plenty of outside space that might be a stove powered by wood or something but for someone in a flat in London it probably just means stuff you can eat without having to cook it. Tins of soup, beans, sweetcorn, tuna, sardines, microwaveable rice/pasta, pasta sauces in jars etc can be eaten cold. Bread in the freezer (obv will unfreeze without power but once unfrozen will last a few days or longer). Maybe some powdered oat milk or something (am suggesting this because I have tried powdered cows milk and it was horrible). Only buy the tins if you'll eat them anyway, and just rotate and keep a stock in so you have at least some food for a short term difficulty. Think of three meals a day for three days to start with.

You need warm clothing and blankets in case it's cold. But most people probably already have these.

You need a torch or rechargeable lighting. Even a small torch (with some batteries) is better than nothing.

With respect to water, just put a reasonable number of large bottles of water in whatever storage you have and switch them out now and again. If you forget and it tastes plasticky, water the plants with them or save for washing in an emergency. You can also get water cubes that take 10L or more quite cheaply on Amazon etc. I have some in an Ikea Kallax storage unit, enough for water for my family for a week, and every six months (I have a reminder on my phone), I use them to water the plants and refill.

Have a bit of cash available in case banking systems go down. Appreciate this is difficult if you are not comfortably off but some is better than none if it can be done. And it might be useful in a more ordinary emergency, like just running out at the end of the month (put it back when you can).

Nobody is talking about a full on nuclear bunker. But it's sensible to have a bit of stuff available in case there is a problem. There are plenty of European countries that recommend that their citizens do this on a regular basis.

@Uricon2 I don't know how critical your husband's bed is in terms of his comfort or survival, but the portable power stations I mentioned earlier can power these if you get a powerful enough one. My dad has one for my mum because she is more or less paralysed and if the power went out she could not eg sit up to eat since her hospital bed is the only real way of her being able to do this. We bought it a couple of years ago and have used it several times in power cuts. It is great and holds its charge really well.

Horton · 25/06/2025 23:24

I don't, by the way, think that we need to worry about WW3 just yet. But I do think we might see cyber attacks on infrastructure and that is a more sensible thing to prepare for. The OP should get some baked beans, water and a power bank rather than maxing out her card.

RowsOfFlowers · 26/06/2025 09:03

Why does everyone think WW3 is coming?

Its almost like you need justification to max out your credit cards, OP

Uricon2 · 26/06/2025 09:10

I don't know how critical your husband's bed is in terms of his comfort or survival, but the portable power stations I mentioned earlier can power these if you get a powerful enough one. My dad has one for my mum because she is more or less paralysed and if the power went out she could not eg sit up to eat since her hospital bed is the only real way of her being able to do this. We bought it a couple of years ago and have used it several times in power cuts. It is great and holds its charge really well.

Genuine thanks for that @Horton. I was originally told that it had an inbuilt power "pack" but it doesn't and the suppliers are very vague about possible options. He is completely bedbound and can't reposition at all, like your DM, so it is a concern in the event of any power cut. Will look into the power stations you mention, thank you.

Holluschickie · 26/06/2025 09:25

RowsOfFlowers · 26/06/2025 09:03

Why does everyone think WW3 is coming?

Its almost like you need justification to max out your credit cards, OP

I don't. I think there will be more terrorist acts. Hope I am wrong.

RowsOfFlowers · 26/06/2025 09:46

Holluschickie · 26/06/2025 09:25

I don't. I think there will be more terrorist acts. Hope I am wrong.

I agree…

ThatCyanCat · 26/06/2025 09:50

Holluschickie · 26/06/2025 09:25

I don't. I think there will be more terrorist acts. Hope I am wrong.

Yes, that's my thought too. Obviously I hope not.

Horton · 26/06/2025 13:11

My pleasure, @Uricon2 . It has been brilliant having the power source as a backup, not least for peace of mind. If you have any questions I might be able to help with feel free to DM.