Meet the Other Phone. Child-safe in minutes.

Meet the Other Phone.
Child-safe in minutes.

Buy now

Please or to access all these features

Politics

Changes to immigration rules announced by Starmer

658 replies

OneAmberFinch · 12/05/2025 14:27

Full white paper here is extensive and announces changes to all avenues of migration - basically their approach to resolving the issues of massively increased migration from 2019-2023/4.

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/6821aec3f16c0654b19060ac/restoring-control-over-the-immigration-system-white-paper.pdf

And Starmer's commentary on the BBC: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/ce810e3z6dkt

Handful of headline changes: default timeline to get ILR to go to 10 years instead of 5; abolishing new care worker visas; raising skills threshold for Skilled Workers back up to graduate level; increasing minimum grades required for student visas; various bits and pieces around English language requirements among several other policies

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/6821aec3f16c0654b19060ac/restoring-control-over-the-immigration-system-white-paper.pdf

OP posts:
Thread gallery
15
SummerDaysOnTheWay · 12/05/2025 19:44

TheBigFactHunt · 12/05/2025 16:25

Nothing will change while all the benefits continue to be dished out like confetti.

Oh booooore off!

jasflowers · 12/05/2025 19:46

ChardonnaysBeastlyCat · 12/05/2025 19:00

Why do you think k that?

Do you really think that every single low paid care worker we have imported is dying to do care work? They do it because they have to, the same way British care workers will. Same thing.
At least the British workers might speak better English.

No they wont... you cannot "make" someone who is unemployed do Care Work or even apply for it, its stupidly easy to fail at interview.

The big problem is UK care workers leaving for better paid jobs.

All the above ignores the fact that we should want caring empathetic people looking after our elderly, someone who comes here having previously done the work or wants to do it, is more likely to be such a person.

mustytrusty · 12/05/2025 19:49

I haven't read the detail in the white paper but on a headline basis it seems ill judged to refuse care worker's visas when we have a massive social care and hospital bed-blocking problem already. It also seems dubious to limit student visas give that our universities are on their knees with a lack of international students since Brexit already.

You'd almost think they want unis and health and social care to fail. As a Labour supporter I am bitterly disappointed in what they're doing on this issue.

ChardonnaysBeastlyCat · 12/05/2025 19:51

jasflowers · 12/05/2025 19:46

No they wont... you cannot "make" someone who is unemployed do Care Work or even apply for it, its stupidly easy to fail at interview.

The big problem is UK care workers leaving for better paid jobs.

All the above ignores the fact that we should want caring empathetic people looking after our elderly, someone who comes here having previously done the work or wants to do it, is more likely to be such a person.

Do you really think every care worker we have imported until now is caring, emphatic and sees caring as vocation?

Anjo2011 · 12/05/2025 19:53

So the ones happy to get a job and work here aren’t welcome but the men coming on boats don’t appear to have any restrictions. Too little too late. The major concern for most are the boats but that doesn’t seem to be a concern for the PM

Shinealighty · 12/05/2025 19:55

Anjo2011 · 12/05/2025 19:53

So the ones happy to get a job and work here aren’t welcome but the men coming on boats don’t appear to have any restrictions. Too little too late. The major concern for most are the boats but that doesn’t seem to be a concern for the PM

To be honest I’m more concerned with the decades of spousal and family visas that have been handed out like candy. Completely changed the landscape of London and other major cities.

Digdongdoo · 12/05/2025 19:56

Shinealighty · 12/05/2025 19:55

To be honest I’m more concerned with the decades of spousal and family visas that have been handed out like candy. Completely changed the landscape of London and other major cities.

Handed out like candy? I fucking wish 😂

ChardonnaysBeastlyCat · 12/05/2025 19:56

Digdongdoo · 12/05/2025 19:56

Handed out like candy? I fucking wish 😂

Why do you wish that?

Shinealighty · 12/05/2025 19:57

Digdongdoo · 12/05/2025 19:56

Handed out like candy? I fucking wish 😂

Have you been to some boroughs in London? Tower hamlets for example?

Shinealighty · 12/05/2025 19:58

Digdongdoo · 12/05/2025 19:56

Handed out like candy? I fucking wish 😂

In the year ending September 2024, 95,635 family-related visas were granted in the UK, including partner visas. Of these, a significant portion (14,417) went to Pakistani nationals, with most of those issued through the Family: Partner visa route. Syrian and Iranian nationals also received a large number of family visas in the same period.

Blackcordoroys · 12/05/2025 19:59

Digdongdoo · 12/05/2025 19:56

Handed out like candy? I fucking wish 😂

Last year 955,000 visas were given out, of which only 210,000 were to workers.

Shinealighty · 12/05/2025 19:59

‘The boat men’ are a distraction, the real issue has been happening for decades right in front of our eyes and genuinely the country make-up will never be the same again.

Digdongdoo · 12/05/2025 20:00

ChardonnaysBeastlyCat · 12/05/2025 19:56

Why do you wish that?

Because my DH is days away from naturalisation. Having been through the process, I wish it handing like out candy rather than laborious, intrusive and expensive. So on a personal level, I fucking wish they were handed out like candy.
But they aren't. So it's nonsense.

Shinealighty · 12/05/2025 20:01

It’s funny how the champagne socialists in their naice villages in Cheshire with their CHOOSE LOVE t shirts and Palestine scarfs will only wake up when it (inevitably) starts moving in to their areas.
complete NIMBYism, they love immigration until it affects them, then they won’t.

DuncinToffee · 12/05/2025 20:02

Shinealighty · 12/05/2025 19:59

‘The boat men’ are a distraction, the real issue has been happening for decades right in front of our eyes and genuinely the country make-up will never be the same again.

Country make-up, which times are you hankering back to?

Shinealighty · 12/05/2025 20:02

DuncinToffee · 12/05/2025 20:02

Country make-up, which times are you hankering back to?

I’d like my children to not have to attend a school where over 90% of the children have English as a foreign language, for example. Wouldn’t anyone?

Mypinkchequebookholder · 12/05/2025 20:03

Shinealighty · 12/05/2025 20:01

It’s funny how the champagne socialists in their naice villages in Cheshire with their CHOOSE LOVE t shirts and Palestine scarfs will only wake up when it (inevitably) starts moving in to their areas.
complete NIMBYism, they love immigration until it affects them, then they won’t.

Just like these folk

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/1CXMwu530Gg

Shinealighty · 12/05/2025 20:05

I’d like to be able to have a ‘family doctor’ like we did when I was a child. NHS appointments freely available, good schooling, less litter and takeaways everywhere, a common feeling and pride of the country and shared values.
my grandparents were immigrants but they worked hard, they had a shared religion with the religion of this country. They wanted to fit in and they did.
this doesn’t happen now.

Shinealighty · 12/05/2025 20:05

Mypinkchequebookholder · 12/05/2025 20:03

Edited

Omg this is one of my fave videos, the ‘we’d love to but we don’t have space’ 🤣

suburburban · 12/05/2025 20:06

Mypinkchequebookholder · 12/05/2025 17:49

Asylum seekers get free accommodation (full board) , free dental treatment, access to NHS services, schooling for their children, access to free legal representation and £8.86 "spend"

Edited

alot of people who live here can’t get dental care on the NHS

Shinealighty · 12/05/2025 20:07

suburburban · 12/05/2025 20:06

alot of people who live here can’t get dental care on the NHS

It’s mind blowing to me how people cannot connect the sheer disintegration of the services of this country and the fact our population has exploded in size

suburburban · 12/05/2025 20:09

Indeed. It’s very frustrating especially the housing situation

MiloMinderbinder925 · 12/05/2025 20:13

ChardonnaysBeastlyCat · 12/05/2025 17:44

“MiloMinderbinder925 · Today 16:58
He was talking about cutting net migration to the UK.”

This is you earlier.

Edited

Which is factually correct. He was talking about cutting net migration regarding visas.

ChardonnaysBeastlyCat · 12/05/2025 20:16

MiloMinderbinder925 · 12/05/2025 20:13

Which is factually correct. He was talking about cutting net migration regarding visas.

No. It can’t be net anything if you are not taking into consideration the whole.

SomewhereinSuberbia · 12/05/2025 20:19

The proportion of minority groups living in Britain will rise from 10% in 2006 to 40% by 2050 (according to the Migration Observatory at the University of Oxford).
I think we need to slow down immegration and try and assimilate the population that is here or we may end up fracturing into sectarianism.
Social cohesion is something that we have not have had to worry about before for many years but we need to get it right or sectarianism of religious or racial tribalism may take root.

Swipe left for the next trending thread