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Président Macron's speech tonight. (with English subtitles, I hope)

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Redheadedstepchild · 05/03/2025 20:35

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I hope that this uploads with English subtitles but if it doesn't, you should be able to get them up. I can't form any opinion about what he had to say right now, just passing it on.

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sleepwouldbenice · 06/03/2025 15:24

Ilovelifeverymuch · 06/03/2025 14:59

It's doing way better than the UK 😂 😆.

Wages have stagnated so badly in the UK and there's no positivity. Look at the economic mews in the UK v US, companies committing to invest in the US while in the UK we sell all our companies with no vision.

Please don't even try to claim or pretend the UK is doing anywhere as good as the US economically. If the US economy is not doing well, the UK economy is in shambles.

The UK will need to increase defense spending beyond the 2.5% of GDP, let's see how that will happen.

The US debt is bigly big

EasternStandard · 06/03/2025 15:47

@sleepwouldbenice when I said Europe could pick up the security guarantee you asked if I'd listened to leaders lately.

Do you think Europe will give the security guarantee?

TrufflePopcorn · 06/03/2025 16:50

Puzzledandpissedoff · 06/03/2025 13:23

For all Macron's posing as the big guy they've not actually "saved" anything yet, and I'd be amazed if French politicians were ever prepared to do anything unless it directly benefited France

Also worth remembering that in WW2 their sainted President didn't even hang around but scuttled off to the UK's protection, and even with Iraq they played both sides to the point where some ministers had to be kept out of the planning

If it's De Gaulle you think you're talking about maybe pick up a history book?

Oscarbravoromeo · 06/03/2025 19:13

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TrufflePopcorn · 06/03/2025 19:47

And beside @Puzzledandpissedoff if you want to go that far back, you might be interested in what Ukraine was up to during WW2.

Wildflowers99 · 06/03/2025 19:48

EasternStandard · 06/03/2025 15:47

@sleepwouldbenice when I said Europe could pick up the security guarantee you asked if I'd listened to leaders lately.

Do you think Europe will give the security guarantee?

I don’t think they can. They need American backup but I think they’re positioning themselves to ask for as little as possible.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 07/03/2025 12:14

TrufflePopcorn · 06/03/2025 16:50

If it's De Gaulle you think you're talking about maybe pick up a history book?

Out of interest, what part of "De Gaulle scuttled off to the UK's protection" wasn't true?

Granted he used the rationale of disagreeing with the armistice they'd signed with Germany and claimed to be coordinating the resistance from here, but he could perfectly well have done that at home

Ilovelifeverymuch · 07/03/2025 12:59

sleepwouldbenice · 06/03/2025 15:24

The US debt is bigly big

Hence why the US needs to stop subsidizing the EU and focus on itself.

The EU announced spending of €850bn. Proof they are being subsized. If the US didn't pull back it's support the EU will not need to spend €850bn and that's just a start. The EU will end up spending way way way more than what the US asked them to spend as part of NATO, and what's going to happen to the UK? The 2.5% announcement from Stamer isn't going to cut it and the UK will continue to lose its relevance on the global stage.

So all you're telling me is Trump is right to cut spending to support the EU, paying billions for a war Ukraine will not win without NATO boots on ground and other waste and pay down the "bigly" debt.

notimagain · 07/03/2025 13:38

Puzzledandpissedoff · 07/03/2025 12:14

Out of interest, what part of "De Gaulle scuttled off to the UK's protection" wasn't true?

Granted he used the rationale of disagreeing with the armistice they'd signed with Germany and claimed to be coordinating the resistance from here, but he could perfectly well have done that at home

I suspect the problem some might have had is that your wording didn’t make clear that De Gaulle wasn’t President when he “scuttled off to the UK”,

The President was (I think) LeBrun.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 07/03/2025 13:59

notimagain · 07/03/2025 13:38

I suspect the problem some might have had is that your wording didn’t make clear that De Gaulle wasn’t President when he “scuttled off to the UK”,

The President was (I think) LeBrun.

You're right, notimagain, I may well have put it badly in referring to him a President when it was (I think) the late fifties when he was actually elected

Not that we'd have known it from accounts of those who had to work with him while he was in England ...

TrufflePopcorn · 19/03/2025 23:14

Puzzledandpissedoff · 07/03/2025 12:14

Out of interest, what part of "De Gaulle scuttled off to the UK's protection" wasn't true?

Granted he used the rationale of disagreeing with the armistice they'd signed with Germany and claimed to be coordinating the resistance from here, but he could perfectly well have done that at home

So ignorant.

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