Why America voted for Trump, a simple, sane summary

[Bippy2024]

This is why Trump won so resoundingly - this is why 72 million Americans voted for him - in one of his voter's own words.

If you choose to monster and slur 72 million people, that's saying a lot about you. Every accusation is a confession.

"I know a lot of people who voted for Trump. Let me tell you their reasons.
They wanted a return to normalcy. Gender ideology is just too out there. They want to protect women and children.

The economy has been disastrous for them. They didn’t have a cushion to absorb the inflation. They are cutting out everything in their lives just to afford food. And some are cutting that out.

Their lives have gotten very small. When they tried to tell you, they were told they shouldn’t splurge on things like a frozen pizza.

They see people coming illegally into this country and being handed stuff. Their stuff. Their money is being handed over. They have nothing. They watch as others are just handed more than they have.

They can’t afford rent and don’t know what to do. More people fighting for the same housing units makes prices rise.

They see a frightening turn towards censorship. They value the first amendment. Remember, it’s very important. They are so tired of being lied to and called terrible names.

Every time the mainstream media made up a story to make people hysterical they rolled their eyes. This pushed more and more people away. They stopped having any faith in the media. A firing squad? Really?

They feel the hysteria is toxic and frightening. Again they want this all to calm down.

They watch as political protests are punished for only one side. They see crime running rampant.

They see the people who try to protect us from crime being punished. The criminals go free to re-offend.

Essentially, they want their children to be healthy, they want their family to be fed, they don’t want endless war, they want things to be fair, they want the bad guys punished and the good guys appreciated, they want to protect women and children.

I hope if you are frightened today you will hear me. I hope I can help you see that things are not dire. I hope I can help you see that these were regular everyday folks who want regular everyday things. Food, clothing, shelter, privacy, respect for boundaries.

That’s it. Just those things. Peace."

https://x.com/babybeginner/status/1854179213399502850

He was talking about teachers grooming impressionable children into deciding they're trans, not that schools actually perform the surgery. But of course the media took six words out of several minutes of context to twist his meaning.

Teachers have groomed children here in the US. They put books about fisting into libraries of elementary schools. The movement to trans vulnerable children was out of control, which is why Trump won suburban women, which should have been a natural constituency for Kamala. Don't mess with American moms.

Apart from the obvious reasons for voting for Trump which many have set out whether you like them or not, Kamala Harris was a mediocre candidate without a clear set of policies of her own.

"He was talking about teachers grooming impressionable children into deciding they're trans, not that schools actually perform the surgery."

No - he talks about children having surgery at school.

Did you not watch the video?

He also talked about people 15 years down the line having regrets, suggesting he thinks that children were being coerced into surgery by schools.

And framing teachers as 'groomers' for using kids preferred pronouns. Ffs.

"Kamala Harris was a mediocre candidate without a clear set of policies of her own."

She had a clear set of policies which you obviously didn't read.

He didn't. Check the numbers. They're still counting in the Dem run states, esp. California, but he is already over his 2020 numbers.

In terms of electoral movement, EVERY demographic moved right. No matter how you slice and dice the electorate, it moved right, decisively. Even AOC's district moved 7.8 % toward Trump. California moved Trump. Only Washington and Connecticut moved left. Black women moved right. Black men moved right. Hispanics moved right, gays moved right, single women moved right.

"Teachers have groomed children here in the US. They put books about fisting into libraries of elementary schools."

lol.

You been on the 'mums for liberty' website 😂

You know what they also have in school libraries? A book which talks about Incest. Rape. Infanticide. Genocide. Torture. Sexual slavery.

It's called 'The Bible'.

Disinformation works.

Propaganda works.

Demagoguery is hugely effective as a persuasion tool.

Targeting minorities works.

Look back over the past 100 years of political history:

Hitler
Mussolini
Putin
Berlusconi
Orban
Bolsannaro

Trump is one of these people.

The global crisis created by the pandemic has created opportunities for fascists everywhere.

They are all strongly partisan democrat papers who told everyone Biden was just fine until he all but took a dump on the debate stage. After Biden was forced to drop out, they suddenly decided that Trump had dementia, too. The electorate responded with appropriate derision.

Disinformation works.
Propaganda works.

Yes dear some people have been so brainwashed they believe that men can be women.

The easiest way is to eliminate benefits for them, jail employers who hire them since it's already illegal to employ them and for the federal government to stop paying NGOs (I'm looking at you, Catholic Charities) to resettle them. They will self-deport, as they have done in the past.

The only ones Trump is planning to actively deport are the criminals.

Biden tore much of it down and then sued Texas when they started building their own wall. Biden lost in court and Texas is still building. The US-Mexico border is more than 3000 km. long.

@LifeExperience

Have you ever spent time with someone with a dementia diagnosis?

Nobody with dementia could function at the level that Biden did in his state of the Nation address this year, or engage in high level diplomacy.

Biden has been confused, and has lost the thread of his speech. So has Trump. Trump repeatedly got confused about who he was standing against in the election - referring to Obama when he meant Biden. The difference between Trump and Biden when they have a 'senior moment' is that Trump just verbally rambles aimlessly on auto pilot and his fans don't care that he's talking absolute nonsense. Biden mumbles & stutters.

But if you're focusing on signs of actual dementia Trump's weird linguistic mistakes and actual delusions are more indicative of demential than Biden's mumbling.

This study about linguistic patterns indicative of the first signs of dementia in Reagan is interesting.

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6922000/

@LifeExperience

'Much of it'?

How much?

www.factcheck.org/2023/10/bidens-border-wall-explained/

@LifeExperience

"The only ones Trump is planning to actively deport are the criminals"

Where did he say that?

@lifeturnsonadime

"Yes dear some people have been so brainwashed they believe that men can be women."

Is that what you think I believe?

We all know that people's sex is immutable. But we don't all accept that 'gender' is always synonymous with biological sex.

I didn't mention sex once.

That you believe in biological sex doesn't make any difference to your fundamental belief that we should treat some men socially as women. That's batshit. It harms women.

You are arguing across multiple threads for the rights of biological males to usurp those of biological females on an unprovable notion of a man's idea of his own gender then. Fascinating.

But why do they think Trump will provide those things? He's been in power before and didn't do so then. He isn't really even claiming he'll put any of that in place either.
But separately shush with the gender thing. trump doesn't give a fuck about women and children's rights. The right wing anti trans movement is about conformity and gender roles and keeping women second class. It is not gender critical or about women's rights

She had a Saul on the road to Tarsus conversion when Biden dropped out of the race and flipped on everything she ran on in 2019 - health care, fracking, expanding the Supreme Court, gun regulation, etc. She wanted to outlaw private medical insurance ffs.

No one believed the new positions were genuine.

As it’s on iPlayer it’s unlikely someone who is presumably in the US can access it. I have no time for Trump at all, and think a system that allows a convicted criminal to become president is broken.

On the other hand, his economic polices seem to appeal more to the average American and the markets than our PMs do to us and the stock markets, and my Sipp is up around £69k since he was elected, compared to down (albeit a lot less, as I’m deliberately underweight on UK stock) so it’s not all bad ;)

What kind of regulations? The kind that stopped the vast amounts of pollution in the Cuyahoga River that made it literally catch fire, or something else?

Things will calm down. The Dems are pretty much broke so they can't afford to pay for anymore "grassroots" activism. The media will perpetuate hysteria for clicks, though, and become ever more irrelevant. Only 13.8% of Americans got all of their election news from traditional media this election. Nobody is listening to them, so the screeching will get louder. Meanwhile ordinary Americans are ignoring them and going about their business.

No, the new regulations that Biden put in by executive order without Congressional approval that has throttled industry here.

Biden kept every tariff Trump imposed. He even increased the rates of some of them. I guess Biden is a xenophobic bigot, too.

Such as?

So you think the people who wanted those things preferred to facilitate a Trump presidency by not voting, knowing that Trump is likely to ride a coach and horse through all of them?

Or you think people who valued those things voted for Trump? 😶