Sue Gray resigns!

[MoneyNeverSleeps]

Doubtless the first of many.

What a shower this Labour Government is turning out to be!

I love rayner love her better than starmer as a nortgern lass love her I am working class to they have a fucking massive majority they can get any policy through. You obviously don't know much about how it works

Thats it - strap on the working class badge as if it makes you honest etc. Well done. Rayner is an unqualified diversity hire, and a self confessed gob.

Dont be so naive. You get rebellions, by elections, more infighting, scandal, media pressure and adverse market reaction. All of which influences policy.

I think she is a victim of her own greed and poor judgement. Greed because she obtained an enormous salary and poor judgement because she failed to staunch for flow of Lord Alli goodies. She is supposed to be an expert in proprietary and ethnics and yet even she had her nose in the trough. Breached Civial Service code also. She was toast.

I think this is spot on.

What’s wrong with taking a job with a large salary?? What civil service code did she breach? Why can’t a member of the Labour Party donate to the election campaign?? I did as a member and don’t care what they spent it on.

Good point.

How did she break the civil service code?

@MoneyNeverSleeps
I’m going to enjoy watching Labour continue to implode'

Are you enjoying seeing the country on his knees? public services crumbling? people on NHS waiting lists? the destruction of our standards of living?

It is not a spectacle...

This is why people are sick of politics and politicians: endless chaos and infighting rather than getting on with the job they are elected to do while the right wing media stir the pot.

Government needs to get on with doing the job and focus on the welfare of the majority of people.

There is nothing 'enjoyable' about having had so many Prime Ministers in the past 14 years, each one even more useless than the person they were replacing.

No, of course not.

But, according to Labour themselves, things need to get a lot worse before they can improve. Listen to Starmers rose garden speech and Reeves’s dire warnings.

The difference is, Labour are not competent enough to turn the country around IMHO. It’s all about the economy ultimately. Ideological warfare is not the answer.

I'm generally a Tory voter and I'm not enjoying this at all. I have never felt so anxious for the future of the UK as I do now. I really did think that Starmer would be a competent PM after the disastrous previous government.

We now know 7 families who have left or are leaving the country due to the scaremongering over taxes and the general pessimism.

Labour have only themselves to blame.
Their messaging has been full of doom and gloom,
and they are belatedly trying to change course.
Sentiment is shot, hence some running for the exit.

They had 14 years to prep and look at the damage within 3 months.

The freebie stuff will pass but it’s growth they’ll be really tested on

Hard to say at this point but if the policies do thus and drive down growth it’ll get hard for them

Worse for us though which people will be angry about

I agree.

I was pleased when Labour got in, but I think they've handled so much really badly. And that makes me worried.

Why they had to start so aggressively just to try and look serious? They should have done things more carefully and gently.

The electorate is absolutely bruised and battered from the Tories and a thoughtful year would have been very welcome.

But no, because they made their idiotic pledge not to raise income tax they are scrabbling around like fools.

And the free stuff makes me sick - we got used to the tories being greedy bastsrds but this lot are just as bad!

@MrsBennetsPoorNerves

you think she has that much integrity???
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This getting exciting 🤗

I don't actually think she was given much choice.

There is no damage no matter how much you try to convince people. The right wing press would like to convince people this. But everything that starmer has done really hasn't really impacted.Apart from maybe the winter fuel allowance situation. They haven't even really started yet. There is going to be some good policies coming in. Like, you cannot have unfair dismissal before two years, etc.

You r being very lazy they r not just as bad the stuff that starmet took wasn't just since being a pm it was before so it looks like since when it's a longer time frame. He declared it Boris didn't and now we find Boris took 900000 worth of gifts many times more . So no not the same at all

I agree.

My guess is that some ‘brain’ among the strategists decided that they should replicate the Tory message of 2010 by banging on about the legacy they’d inherited and maximise the gloom. That way they could slip removal of the WFA through in the summer and any controversy would have gone away by the winter. More generally, they could set up a general longer-term narrative that any economic bad news could be blamed on the previous government.

Unfortunately they’re not very good at this.

So the WFA issue rumbles on. It will be in the news all through the winter.

Freebie grabbing has totally undermined any image of regrettable parsimony.

And the relentless, stagey talking down of the economy has just made people more fearful of tax rises and benefit cuts. IMO most now believe that any they do make were always planned. I also think the ‘oh no, look what we’ve found!’ schtick has been so badly performed that people don’t believe it.

In the background are issues like irregular immigration by boat (this sort of thing doesn’t help the government: https://news.sky.com/story/more-than-970-migrants-cross-channel-the-highest-number-so-far-this-year-13228992). Why they didn’t say openly that this problem is out of our control is beyond me. But no, “smash the gangs”…

A more sensible, less shrieky and preachy stance in opposition and a more honest, measured and upbeat message in government would have been better for them.

Too late now.

@Blanketyre

people were warned that it would be like this, but they didn't listen. They just wanted the Tories out at ANY cost, well now they are being shown the cost, they don't like it.

Anyone shocked by what's happening wasn't paying attention.

Absolutely, this.

And they now refuse to face the inevitable.

Well, the adverse newsflow will not stop.

Because the majority of msm in the uk is owned by right wing press etc that are re bitter over the tory downfall that's why we know this

Oh god, not that hoary old argument.

Have you actually read some of the left wing press
recently?

It makes interesting reading.

There isn't any maybe guardian but even then they are not really as james o Brian says there is a small minority. It's not ab old chestnut james is right. Most are right wing even bbc have a tory person at top

It is a really poor argument fir the reason you say but also the press go for anyone in power

Labour need to move on from some of the tired lines I heard from Alistair Campbell this morning