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Sue Gray resigns!

102 replies

MoneyNeverSleeps · 06/10/2024 14:09

Doubtless the first of many.

What a shower this Labour Government is turning out to be!

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Happyher · 06/10/2024 15:02

She probably doesn’t like being the centre of attention just for doing her job. She was put on a pedestal by the Tories when she was chosen to carry out the partygate investigation. Case should have done it in his position but he couldn’t as he organised one of the parties
We were told Sue would do a thorough and fair investigation. She did and Johnson ended up getting fined. Some Tories have never forgiven her for that and there has been a sustained campaign to slur her ever since.
In my mind she’s a victim of the dick waving patriarchal establishment and she’s well out of it.

toooldforbrat · 06/10/2024 15:03

Sidebeforeself · 06/10/2024 14:56

I hate it when people say “present the evidence’ etc on threads like this. We are not A Level students or journalists! We don’t have to - we can base our options on whatever we want.

i hate it when people present opinions as facts and then get up themselves when asked to back it up.

Sidebeforeself · 06/10/2024 15:06

My view is she knew exactly what she was getting into. She possibly had her head turned by the big job offer and thought her reputation and experience would buffer her from the media and public criticism which, given her seniority, was a rather naive mistake. She should have advised Starmer better over the recent press stories and also should have ensured a PPS was appointed. I dont think its any great loss, and I resent the made up job she’s been given

kitsuneghost · 06/10/2024 15:07

Sidebeforeself · 06/10/2024 14:56

I hate it when people say “present the evidence’ etc on threads like this. We are not A Level students or journalists! We don’t have to - we can base our options on whatever we want.

Agreed. Google it your goddamn self.
I am not downloading and uploading and writing a paper for your narrow minded benefit

Sidebeforeself · 06/10/2024 15:07

toooldforbrat · 06/10/2024 15:03

i hate it when people present opinions as facts and then get up themselves when asked to back it up.

They probably ‘get up themselves’ because..err..see my earlier point!

Justcallmebebes · 06/10/2024 15:08

Who knows? Maybe, like the vast majority of us, she liked the idea of a Labour government rather than the reality of a Starmer Labour government

Chasqui · 06/10/2024 15:09

MoneyNeverSleeps · 06/10/2024 14:29

Simon Case also left with a warning to the civil service that they must avoid being dragged into party politics and remain impartial servants of the Government, rather than partial participants in it.

Sue Gray was the target of that advice.

Pot meet kettle.

Rummly · 06/10/2024 15:09

toooldforbrat · 06/10/2024 15:03

i hate it when people present opinions as facts and then get up themselves when asked to back it up.

Are you saying the BBC is expressing an opinion that Sue Gray was the target of internal attacks? That’s obviously a statement of fact, not an opinion.

Or are you saying the BBC is making facts up?

MrsBennetsPoorNerves · 06/10/2024 15:11

Surely she has stepped down because she wasn't doing a very good job?

Let's hope that the next person will do better!

Zonder · 06/10/2024 15:26

MoneyNeverSleeps · 06/10/2024 14:30

Zzzzz.

Fallen asleep on your own thread? Or did you just think everyone should agree with you?

Dweebie · 06/10/2024 15:33

There’s certainly not been a very smooth start but I don’t get the glee and the longing for this government to fail. It baffles me.

Hunnymonster1 · 06/10/2024 15:38

Actually she's moved to another post and I think that since labour haven't been in power for 14 years it's teething issues because it will fake time to adjust to being on power . Think uts good that it's happening now they can get sorted and basically lbc said that she wasn't briefing right anyway so I think she's been asked to go to another post

Hunnymonster1 · 06/10/2024 15:39

Sidebeforeself · 06/10/2024 15:06

My view is she knew exactly what she was getting into. She possibly had her head turned by the big job offer and thought her reputation and experience would buffer her from the media and public criticism which, given her seniority, was a rather naive mistake. She should have advised Starmer better over the recent press stories and also should have ensured a PPS was appointed. I dont think its any great loss, and I resent the made up job she’s been given

Edited

You kinda said what lbc journalist was saying

MoneyNeverSleeps · 06/10/2024 15:56

Zonder · 06/10/2024 15:26

Fallen asleep on your own thread? Or did you just think everyone should agree with you?

Nah.

But I find those who are clearly partisan, and binary, hugely dull.

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SlothOnARope · 06/10/2024 15:58

Sidebeforeself · 06/10/2024 14:56

I hate it when people say “present the evidence’ etc on threads like this. We are not A Level students or journalists! We don’t have to - we can base our options on whatever we want.

I agree.

This government is shit and so was the last one.

Based on my opinion.

Zonder · 06/10/2024 16:00

MoneyNeverSleeps · 06/10/2024 15:56

Nah.

But I find those who are clearly partisan, and binary, hugely dull.

Interesting. Or just those who are of a certain opinion?

Dweebie · 06/10/2024 16:00

MoneyNeverSleeps · 06/10/2024 15:56

Nah.

But I find those who are clearly partisan, and binary, hugely dull.

but that’s exactly what you are. Rubbing your hands with glee at the prospect that things might not get better. It is so cynical.

MoneyNeverSleeps · 06/10/2024 16:05

Dweebie · 06/10/2024 16:00

but that’s exactly what you are. Rubbing your hands with glee at the prospect that things might not get better. It is so cynical.

Labour had over a decade to prepare for government, but after less than 100 days Keir Starmer has been forced to sack his own Chief of Staff.

Is this the stability Labour promised?

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TheNuthatch · 06/10/2024 16:08

She was clearly out of her depth so it was only a matter of time.
Her son seems to have done rather well out of her position though! He is now an MP and received a 'donation' from Lord Alli. Despite being a brand new MP, he has also landed a government job.
They are all bent as a nine bob note.

MiddleParking · 06/10/2024 16:10

MoneyNeverSleeps · 06/10/2024 14:29

Simon Case also left with a warning to the civil service that they must avoid being dragged into party politics and remain impartial servants of the Government, rather than partial participants in it.

Sue Gray was the target of that advice.

If the warning was to civil servants, it wasn’t targeted at Sue Gray, was it? That’s twice you seem to have misunderstood something so fundamental.

Efacsen · 06/10/2024 16:12

MoneyNeverSleeps · 06/10/2024 16:05

Labour had over a decade to prepare for government, but after less than 100 days Keir Starmer has been forced to sack his own Chief of Staff.

Is this the stability Labour promised?

SG wasn't sacked - even your own thread title correctly reports that she resigned

MoneyNeverSleeps · 06/10/2024 16:16

Dweebie · 06/10/2024 16:00

but that’s exactly what you are. Rubbing your hands with glee at the prospect that things might not get better. It is so cynical.

And yes, I’m delighted that Labour are in a tailspin.
They’ve declared hostilities on many of us, including the old, private school kids and their parents, the tax payer, the BTL sector - I could go on.

Anything that stymies them, anything that results in rebellion, in them losing by-elections, in the media flaying them, in the markets punishing them, in them being forced to water down some of their more vicious policies, I’m fucking ecstatic.

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MoneyNeverSleeps · 06/10/2024 16:16

Efacsen · 06/10/2024 16:12

SG wasn't sacked - even your own thread title correctly reports that she resigned

Get real.

Its a euphemism and you know it.

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Efacsen · 06/10/2024 16:20

MoneyNeverSleeps · 06/10/2024 16:16

Get real.

Its a euphemism and you know it.

Hmmm

AvaJae · 06/10/2024 16:21

kitsuneghost · 06/10/2024 14:52

Some folk can see no wrong when it comes to labour
They still try blame the tories somehow

Haha, how many weeks in to pick up so many shattered pieces of Tory, 13 year mess?