Reform are getting a shitload of voters

[HeBeaverandSheBeaver]

I have not voted
Reform and live in a safe tory seat But I voted
Lib dem tactical vote

I said ages Ago on here the reform would do really well and was shouted down.

Same as brexit, no one will admit voting for reform but
They still do it in droves it seems.

I'm Willing to bet they
Might win an election in four years at this rate!!

Scary
Times

But isn’t that cheering against democracy?

My point was they are as Britsh as anyone else, whoever they want to vote for. It should surprise noone that marginalized groups are drawn to the far right.

People saying "ignore the reform voters at your peril" - what are we supposed to do about them exactly?

The only person I know who was planning to vote reform is in his 70s and massively racist. There's nothing I could say to persuade him to vote otherwise and I really don't know how to talk to him about anything political.

I'm interested to see the age demographic of reform voters. I wonder if they are mostly people over 60s. I hope the younger generation are more tolerant.

But that isn't where the word comes from at all. It's much older and more widely used, black inner city ghettos are one example among many.

When someone says a word has racist connotations, generally what people mean is that you think it's racist to use the word. And it sounded like you were saying the poster should not have used it because it's a racist term. Is that not what you meant?

The whole point of the poster was making was that ghettoized neighbourhoods are bad. It's not racist to object to ghettoization, or say so.

Nobody is disputing that they are British, just that their vote legitimises Reform voters.

Previous poster said regardless of their nationality, she meant ethinicity or more acurately heritage. This was a poster who was describing others as racist.

Barnsley too ( Reform 2nd) these are hundreds of thousands of votes, we cannot discount this as nut jobs and fanatics. Reform is saying something that is cutting through all over the North of England

Reform are not nut jobs. They have proven backing from Russia and are aiming to disrupt Britain. They use policies they know they will never have to deliver, to get support from people who do not want to vote for mainstream parties.

I mean - the numbers, to me, look like Labour hasn't really gained much. So, maybe a lot of the same voters they had last time.

What's changed is people who voted Tory last time, and are pissed off at them, clearly did not feel like Labour was a better bet. So they've gone for a protest vote, either Reform or Lib Dem mainly.

It looks to me like a big FU to Labour and the Tories.

What seems especially notable is despite how unhappy many are with the Conservative government, they haven't been convinced that Labour is a better option.

How bad a campaign do you have to run to get to that?

Vote share has influence on policies, because Every mp cares about popularity!

Labour may yet end up with their biggest ever majority.

The Tories will certainly have fewer MPs than in anyone whose alive's lifetime.
I am not sure how you reached your conclusion.

Educate yourself on why some people from ethnic minority backgrounds might behave in a way which is anti ethnic minorities.

2 of Reform's 13 seats projected by the exit poll were Barnsley N and S.
They weren't particularly close in the end.

and Reform have their first seat

I am looking at % of vote. How many people changed their votes, and who. Not the number of seats.

I may be behind the results at this point though, I'm not watching any more.

YESSS

@nomoretoriesforme and why is that good news? What are their policies?

You and your mission to use every racial slur you can are quite transparent.

The UK electoral system is first past the post, so the share of the vote is irrelevant, all that matters is the number of seats won.

Now one could make an arguement as the lib dems have done for many years for an alternative voting system, indeed we had a referendum on such an idea not so many years ago.

FPTP was shown to be the will of the people.

This thread is about reform.

I'm watching BBC News.

They have a graph showing %gains and losses, they have a % for reform.

How does that work?

If you are analyzing the voting patterns you rather do need to look at the % of the vote.

Labour can gain many more seats with a split vote, without necessarily gaining many more votes.

This is basic stuff political parties want to know. Who voted for them, wo didn't, and why.