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Brexit- if we had a referendum now do you think people would vote to stay/ go back in

95 replies

Flyhigher · 21/04/2024 21:02

Curious - do people think as a nation we'd vote to go back in?

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caringcarer · 22/04/2024 13:26

Alexandra2001 · 22/04/2024 12:41

So in a world where we face climate change that will decimate the environment (and hence our own way of life) seeking closer trading ties to countries on the other side of the world is better than having a closer trading relationship with the EU? riiight.

We aren't in the EU, we don't pay in and aren't part of the ECJ anymore but we have chosen to have a more distant trading relationship with the EU than Canada has or Japan...... very weird.

But you do know we would have to align with EU policies on just about all food products to trade with them. They don't even let lorry drivers take a packet of ham sandwich for their own consumption across the Chanel.

user411966691966 · 22/04/2024 22:24

No

MeAndStuart1981 · 22/04/2024 22:27

The silent majority will say no.

Pocketfullofdogtreats · 22/04/2024 22:39

Yes. We really shot ourselves in the foot with leaving. We would have to accept less favourable conditions on rejoicing, if they would have us
There's an awful lot of crap talked about the EU. Most of us just didn't - and still don't - have enough info to make an informed decision about whether it would be better for us to be in or out. But with hindsight, it sure as hell looks as if it was a mistake.

MissingMoominMamma · 22/04/2024 22:44

bozzabollix · 21/04/2024 21:38

One of the biggest reasons I was disgusted by the Brexit result was because of NI. It was an absolute disgrace that senior politicians played with NI’s peace process and the voters who just didn’t care because out of sight out of mind were awful too. Really feel for you. I’m ashamed of us English.

Please don’t blame us all. I am personally devastated that we left.

Remoteaccess · 22/04/2024 23:29

MissingMoominMamma · 22/04/2024 22:44

Please don’t blame us all. I am personally devastated that we left.

I am devastated too, was and always will be 😥

Alexandra2001 · 23/04/2024 07:00

caringcarer · 22/04/2024 13:26

But you do know we would have to align with EU policies on just about all food products to trade with them. They don't even let lorry drivers take a packet of ham sandwich for their own consumption across the Chanel.

Err you do realise that the UK has exactly the same rules on meats for personal consumption?

You can bring the following into Great Britain from any country without any restrictions:

  • bread, but not sandwiches filled with meat or dairy products (Gov.uk 2024)

Any exporter to the EU has to align with EU rules, just as a German car maker will export cars that follow UK rules....

EU alignment isn't binary, its a sliding scale.. from a restrictive and costly trading relationship as we have now to full alignment i.e SM membership and ANYTHING in between.

Boris promised young people membership of Erasmus, which the EU was more than happy to give but he then went back on his word.

I don't know where you get your views from but they are incorrect.

SnapdragonToadflax · 23/04/2024 07:08

noshadowatnoon · 21/04/2024 21:34

well of course, its a fucking disaster. But going back in is not up to us. It would be up to the EU. And there is no reason for them to want us back.

The EU have always said they'd be very happy to have us back.

SnapdragonToadflax · 23/04/2024 07:14

claireismyname · 22/04/2024 11:05

Getting back into the EU is not up to us.

The door has been slammed shut and we are persona non grata. We will need to beg for any scraps the EU is prepared to trade with us. Frankly, we have little to offer the EU.

At least the people selling fish on the street can go about their business unhindered.

Again, the EU have said we'd be welcome to come back. This is needlessly dramatic bollocks. The door was not 'slammed shut', we followed a political process to leave.

The referendum should never have been allowed in the first place and we had the worst possible people 'negotiating' (ha!) the deal. But the EU simply followed what we told them we wanted.

It's all fucking David Cameron's fault. Fucked the country over for generations to come because he was scared of Farage.

Alexandra2001 · 23/04/2024 07:18

SnapdragonToadflax · 23/04/2024 07:14

Again, the EU have said we'd be welcome to come back. This is needlessly dramatic bollocks. The door was not 'slammed shut', we followed a political process to leave.

The referendum should never have been allowed in the first place and we had the worst possible people 'negotiating' (ha!) the deal. But the EU simply followed what we told them we wanted.

It's all fucking David Cameron's fault. Fucked the country over for generations to come because he was scared of Farage.

Yes Cameron is ultimately responsible, such arrogance! even Osbourne advised against it, the polling from 2015 was always very close.

Bojo used Brexit to gain power.

Both should be in court, they are supposed to act to protect the UK, not fuck it over for their own ends.

& the wrong person died in that plane crash.

Validus · 23/04/2024 07:23

SauronsArsehole · 21/04/2024 21:40

No. I voted remain and I don’t think we would vote to go back in. I don’t think we should. We should never have left if I’m honest but it is done.

we would never get back in on the same terms anyway so it would be even more detrimental for us to try.

many of the issues were facing every other country is facing too and we need to stop blaming brexit for everything

many of our issues can be dealt with by getting a proper government.
no, not Labour - don’t know what a woman is, many completely dismissive of the cass report, have completely abandoned class and focused on identity totally disenfranchising the working class.

Certainly not tories- austerity anyone? We’re still reeling from that shit show and many families have been set back a generation or more just from that. Covid handling and jobs for donors then truss and kwartang have shown them all to be greedy stupid fuckwits. much of this was just a wealth transfer and did little to help the average person.
we voted in a man who couldn’t even be honest with his own wife nor honest how many actual children he has to be fully transparent and honest with us? Fucking crazy if you ask me.

get this mess sorted first because any idea of rejoining the EU will just magnify our problems further.

This.

first off - polls are known to be inaccurate. No one I know who votes to leave is unhappy with that choice. They’re just happy with the current government, but they are able to see that Brexit is only an exacerbating factor for issues that have been building for decades. Rejoining won’t fix them. At most it’d be a sticking plaster, and would then allow the uk government to go back to blaming the EU for everything rather than taking any responsibility.

second - and I vote remain - I would vote no. The EU hasn’t become any better from a wastefulness or democratic legitimacy perspective, and we’d be going in on much worse terms than we had.

Alexandra2001 · 23/04/2024 07:33

Validus · 23/04/2024 07:23

This.

first off - polls are known to be inaccurate. No one I know who votes to leave is unhappy with that choice. They’re just happy with the current government, but they are able to see that Brexit is only an exacerbating factor for issues that have been building for decades. Rejoining won’t fix them. At most it’d be a sticking plaster, and would then allow the uk government to go back to blaming the EU for everything rather than taking any responsibility.

second - and I vote remain - I would vote no. The EU hasn’t become any better from a wastefulness or democratic legitimacy perspective, and we’d be going in on much worse terms than we had.

Funny how trading agreements the world over are deemed to be good for the UK BUT a good trading agreement with the EU apparently wont make any difference and will even make matters worse......

The reasons Thatcher supported and helped design the Single Market are as valid now as they were when she was in power, would be a huge boost for the UKs exporting sector.

As for "Blame" the govt still blames the EU and anyone and everyone for the UKs failings.

Sunak isn't taking responsibility for anything at all.

MrsSkylerWhite · 23/04/2024 09:11

Corinthiana · Yesterday 09:51
That's a strange one! Voting Leave because you think that Remain will win! However, the EU/complacency thing is probably more of a factor”

Not really. Margaret Beckett voted for Corbyn not because she wanted him as leader but because she thought it was important for democracy 🤯 subsequently regretted it. And she’s intelligent!

AmusedMaker · 23/04/2024 10:41

second - and I vote remain - I would vote no. The EU hasn’t become any better from a wastefulness or democratic legitimacy perspective, and we’d be going in on much worse terms than we had

agree.

It’s interesting how some who voted remain would now vote leave ( not that they’ll be another referendum for decades )

thecatneuterer · 23/04/2024 10:43

jobsjkfo · 21/04/2024 21:07

I'd like to think so but there is a lot of stupid out there.

Sadly this sums it up

ageratum1 · 23/04/2024 10:55

No

SoIf · 23/04/2024 12:07

Absolutely not.

Abhannmor · 02/05/2024 09:28

MissLucyEyelesbarrow · 21/04/2024 21:16

Polls say yes, but most people can't face the divisiveness of another vote, I think. We'll just gradually edge back towards the EU without actually rejoining, and end up somewhere similar to Norway & Switzerland, just on much less favourable terms because David Cameron is a fucking idiot.

😂 and 👏

Flyhigher · 02/05/2024 21:13

MrsSkylerWhite · 23/04/2024 09:11

Corinthiana · Yesterday 09:51
That's a strange one! Voting Leave because you think that Remain will win! However, the EU/complacency thing is probably more of a factor”

Not really. Margaret Beckett voted for Corbyn not because she wanted him as leader but because she thought it was important for democracy 🤯 subsequently regretted it. And she’s intelligent!

I thought Corbyn was a vote loser.
But actually all his policies were brillant - apart from he also supported Brexit- he didn't fight for remain. I don't think I can forgive him that.

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Cattenberg · 03/05/2024 10:55

Corbyn wanted to renationalise the railways. If I remember rightly, a survey found that the majority of Brits would have supported this.

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