Brexit- if we had a referendum now do you think people would vote to stay/ go back in

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Curious - do people think as a nation we'd vote to go back in?

It's hard to say. I think a lot of people might vote remain as feel they were lied to (doh!) Some of the old Boomers who voted leave will have shuffled off this mortal coil since 2016 I guess so a result now would probably be different.

@Treelichen can i come and live there please. I literally can not stand this country any longer. Do I need a visa?

Fab. Bit like North Korea then?

So say a load of gammon migrants comes over in small boats because they see opportunity. What's your policy on that?
Which countries will you trade with? Going to let doctors/ builders / teachers in or only if they agree to not be stupid?

Yes. For 3 reasons

1. There are more people who regret voting 'leave' than those who regret voting 'remain' so more likely to change their vote to remain.
2. Enough older people (who were most likely to vote leave) have died to tip the balance
3. Enough young people have turned 18 - who were most likely to vote remain

Hmm, not much like North Korea. It’s also not an island so no boats but also it’s a place of living off the land so not full of opportunities unless you want to work hard. Happy to trade with others and also happy to accept migrants with skills.

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I'm not Irish or located there, but have many friends who are. It's like the UK took an intelligence test and failed. Any idiot could see that this would release the works from the can.

Also we wouldn't be allowed to rejoin on the same terms we had, so whilst I was very much opposed to Brexshit, I wouldn't vote to rejoin. If we could go back in time and not leave, I'd vote for that.

So those land borders...going to defend them from "stupid" ?

What if the unskilled break in. They like your country - they don't like the stupid people either. What you doing with those?

And those migrants with skills might also be " stupids". Do people have to pass a test to show they agree with you?

Considering the stats show that the majority of each age group over 40 voted leave I really don't think 'boomers' really swung the vote to leave by that much.

I apologise, its all age groups over 45:
https://www.statista.com/statistics/520954/brexit-votes-by-age/

I worked a Polling Station for the Referendum. We were absolutely rammed from start to finish, completely different to election polling days.

The majority of people who voted that day claimed that they never voted usually, but that this 'was too important to not turn up for' and that after the referendum they'd not set foot in a polling station again. Ours was not the only PS to experience this.

On that basis, if these same idiots voters turned out, I fear the result would be the same.

You worked a Polling Station? Did it have levers?

And almost half those over 35. I’m surprised.

I wish they did have levers. They're could be an 'eject' lever for stupid people. And, no, you don't know who they are voting for. Stupid people advertise themselves at polling stations in ways only people who have worked in them would understand.

I remember that when I went to vote! Our polling station was the busiest I’ve ever seen it and some of the voters clearly weren’t used to the process and needed help from the polling clerks/their own relatives.

I don’t know how a second referendum would go, but I wouldn’t be optimistic. It amazes me sometimes that the Tories have run public services into the ground, given away millions of pounds of taxpayers’ money to their mates via dodgy contracts and partied whilst forbidding people from staying goodbye to their dying relatives. Yet millions of people will still vote for them.

I think most of the people who voted out would vote the same.

Personally I knew no one who said they wanted out. Whereas my parents and in laws said they know loads of retired people who voted out. And the grey vote usually wins.

Maybe those who were complacent the first time around and didn't bother to vote, would do second time around.

No because we'd have to adopt the Euro. We'd not get the rebate we used to get. We'd have to take even more immigrants. I wouldn't work this soon after the first referendum. There should be at least 30 years between these types of referendum to allow time for people to see the differences and for a new generation to vote.

It's my opinion though and I'm entitled to it. I don't blame others for feeling the same way though I do wish voting was mandatory to prevent your other point being so painfully true.

I also think most of the parties are corrupt and very few politicians have a clue what they're doing. They start off hopeful but it doesn't last. I've worked in parliament a few times over the years. Definitely got the impression most are making it up as they go along.

I do think our first past the post voting system for general elections caused the upsurge in voters for the referendum.

Unless you live in a swing constituency or a stronghold constituency that reflects your political allegiances, then your vote doesn't count which can make you disillusioned with the process.

I do hope a new voting system gets adopted. PR would be great, even compulsory voting would be a step forward

I'm ashamed to say I voted leave. I realise I was duped and misinformed by politicians. I feel so angry now.
I would never have voted leave knowing what I know now.
I don't think we would be welcomed back now even if there was another vote.
We've made our beds. Thank you David Cameron.

I think people forget what was happening at the time of the vote. The news was showing thousands of migrants in Calais who wanted to come here, and the EU was threatening to force us to take them whether we wanted to or not. Brexit was basically a vote against immigration, and Remain never saw this. They were wittering on about economic issues.

A vote now would have a different result because this isn’t featured so heavily in the news. Also it would depend how the campaign was presented this time round (there were many problems with the Remain campaign, not least that they yelled “Labour costs will go up!” and people thought “Great, a pay rise for me!”)

Probably not. Most people just do whatever the mainstream media tells them. Besides which it wouldn't be quite as simple as that as there are some areas where we'd be unlikely to meet the criteria currently.

Personally I will never forgive Cameron or those who voted leave in the ADVISORY referendum. I've lost my rights to work elsewhere in Europe without having to jump through hoops, my right to study elsewhere (often at a significant discount compared to the vastly overpriced UK), my food security (after several years of utterly crap harvests those of us who aren't the top 1% will definitely be feeling the effects of that later this year) and my confidence that I will always be able to get the meds I need for me and the lady I care for to survive.

Thanks Brexiteers. Live long and prosper, eh.

@Pipsquiggle These weren't disillusioned voters. These were people of all ages who had never voted and had no intention of voting again.

Whether PR or FPTP, it is compelling people of voting age to vote that is needed. There are so many people that complain, but when you ask if they vote, they don't. If you don't use your vote, don't complain.

No we wouldn't, thats just another Leaver lie, the euro can only be adopted when economic conditions allow, they don't want another Greece!!

The Uks debt to GDP is far to high for new euro membership.

If the UK did vote to rejoin, there would be a negotiation, we would not know what we would get & we wouldn't need a rebate as our economy is much weaker, we could even end up not being a net contributor!

Immigration? why would young people in the EU come here now? their economies are doing better than ours and the UK is not the attraction it once was to east europeans.
One reason both Labour and the Tories don't want FOM for younger people is that they know we would see huge numbers of young brits move...

We don't have 30 years between General Elections just so we can see "if the govt works"....

People should be allowed to change their minds or perhaps stick to the same decision, this shouldn't be denied but i'd prefer if a 'party put SM/CU memebrship in their manifesto, so it doesn't become a single voting issue.

I think we are saying the same thing.
Loads of people are disillusioned about voting due to the FPTP system and therefore don't vote in general elections. As every vote is equal in referendums they thought they were 'heard' for the first time and turned out in droves.

I absolutely hate that the Tories had a referendum on this just to appease their back benches. I will never forgive David Cameron for enacting such obvious self harm to the country. This is only the start, Scotland and Northern Ireland will want independence and I can't say I blame them.

Here's an idea...

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/wilson-wanted-uk-to-be-us-state-1075874.html

Think of all the guns y'all could have and, possibly, Trump in charge of us!

Whoop, whoop (or what they shriek).