Brexit- if we had a referendum now do you think people would vote to stay/ go back in

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Curious - do people think as a nation we'd vote to go back in?

Over 60% of Scotland voted to stay. Welcome to democracy in the UK.

@SauronsArsehole 100% this.

I also voted remain and was shocked by the result. However, I don't think we can or should rejoin - the way the EU reacted and the mess it's all been means the relationship will never be the same. We need to properly move on, and with good leadership (which it doesn't look like we will ever have, sadly).

No.
52 percent of those who voted, voted leave. That means well over half of adults did not. A portion of those elderly people who did vote leave in high numbers have sadly died in the 8 years since.

I voted remain, I live in a remain area, almost everyone I know voted remain (including my then 76 year old mother). My neighbours voted leave, because when they went to Malta there were hospitals being built with EU money....no I don't get it either. People voted leave in many cases in protest at things that were not the EU's doing, because it was never properly explained. Like NHS waiting lists or not being able to see your GP easily.

I understand perfectly the issue with Northern Ireland, but I agree that for reasons I don't understand, it was never made properly clear to voters. Why didn't they explain it clearly in simple terms on the news, instead of making vague comments about 'the Northern Ireland problem '.

Your anger should be focused on the media, campaigners, the liars who misrepresented what the EU does, and the people who actually voted leave.

One of the myriad of reasons why we won't be able to rejoin the EU is because by this time next year there will be VAT on education which is illegal in the EU so that would have to be rescinded for us to rejoin and that would be electorally unpopular. There will be loads of other divergences between uk regulations and the EU which will be equally difficult to overcome. Keeping the door open to rejoining would require us to stick to EU rules throughout the wilderness years of non-membership and that boat has already sailed.

Depends on the terms eg the euro

Also as pp said the education tax is a divergence

Personalities change, e.g Bojo isn't around with his blatant lies.

The UK cannot move on when it has such a damaging trading relationship with the EU & that cannot be fixed unless we have closer alignment, which ultimately means a Norway/EFTA style agreement.

Its rather weird that the Tories, without a referendum, have sought closer alignments with Pacific rim nations than it has the Europeans.

Once again, even if we rejoined, the UK economy is no longer able to join the Euro, it would be an ambition only.

Millions were whipped up by social media and the news outlets they chose to engage with. I think, if there was another referendum, the media focus might shift/ things might be less frenzied. I think there would be a swing to remain of about 60:40.

Yes

I do often wonder if the vote would have been a lot different if the people at the time who were eligible to vote, had actually voted.

I guess we'll never know.

I think the silent majority, the ones who don't post on social media etc voted leave because they were totally fed up and wanted control of our borders again. In actual fact it is now worse than ever with anyone who wants to jump in a boat able to move her with free hotel accommodation and food and warm radiators whilst the working natives are completely bled dry trying to obtain the same accommodation food and heat. I think many now don't see the point in voting for anything,

I was surprised as well. It just goes to show what rubbish some of the press write about 'boomers' taking us out of the EU.
I genuinely believe that if people stopped getting their news from social media and read at least 2 newpapers from different political persuasions, then we would have a better educated electorate who would hold the politicians to a higher standard.

At the moment it's a race to the bottom with all main parties.

Yes, I made that point upthread and it's valid - thousands of people just couldn't be bothered to vote. When I asked someone why, she said "oh I just thought Remain would win".

I saw an angry letter (in the Telegraph?) from a man who wanted the polling companies held to account for predicting that Remain would win.

This man had wanted Remain to win, but not by a huge margin as he thought that would make the EU complacent. So he voted Leave! 🤦‍♀️ I’m not convinced of of the wisdom of voting tactically in a binary referendum.

Who knows? There are so many stupid people in this county (52% of citizens to be precise) that it's quite difficult to predict how these seemingly obvious decisions will go.

That's a strange one! Voting Leave because you think that Remain will win! However, the EU/complacency thing is probably more of a factor.

@Pipsquiggle It's not the same thing. They weren't disillusioned, they just didn't care at all. They had some idiotic, misplaced patriotic view that the Country's ills were caused by immigration and cheap labour imported from Eastern Europe and that leaving the EU would sort that out.

I'm disillusioned, I think the system is broken, I think both major parties are as bad as each other, politics is an absolute shitshow. I do however vote. Every single time. I am also fortunate to have EU citizenship. As soon as my familial obligations are done, I'm off.

No people are selfish and stupid

Getting back into the EU is not up to us.

The door has been slammed shut and we are persona non grata. We will need to beg for any scraps the EU is prepared to trade with us. Frankly, we have little to offer the EU.

At least the people selling fish on the street can go about their business unhindered.

Well, the question was "Would we vote to rejoin..." not would the accept us back... so one step at a time, no one knows what a 3 or 4 year negotiation would get us.. or not...!

The UK is relatively wealthy market of almost 70m people, we are a nuclear power, with a 1/2 decent military, certainly comparable to most European armies.

Atm, its still too hard to trade with the UK and vice versa, this needs sorting first.

It's not weird at all that the UK has secured closer trading relationships with Pacific rim nations because it is purely a trade relationship. We don't have to pay to join their club. No courts we have to obey. They don't make rules about thousands of other things they expect us to stick too either.

I think that a different result would only happen if young people went out and voted- especially those who couldn’t vote last time.

It was a major fuck up not to offer the choice of being in a trading partnership with the EU. Politicians 🤦🏻‍♀️

So in a world where we face climate change that will decimate the environment (and hence our own way of life) seeking closer trading ties to countries on the other side of the world is better than having a closer trading relationship with the EU? riiight.

We aren't in the EU, we don't pay in and aren't part of the ECJ anymore but we have chosen to have a more distant trading relationship with the EU than Canada has or Japan...... very weird.

I'd vote the same.
I didn't want out in the first place. I voted to stay in the EU.
Wasn't a big gap in the voting.
It's buggered the UK up.

Referendum resultIn the referendum 51.89% voted in favour of leaving the EU (Leave), and 48.11% voted in favour of remaining a member of the EU (Remain).

Well we stopped all that silly red tape and got our borders back. Oh..wait....

Yes I agree with you but I think the politicians knew that if what was offered was a trading relationship only without the wider obligations then that probably would have won by a country mile. And wasn't on offer from the EU.