If there was a GE today who would you vote for?

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Bit cheeky but I’m curious to see if there are genuinely any Tory voters out there at all following another disastrous week for Rishi Sunak.

So who would get your vote?

I‘ll go first, I would vote Labour. As much as I would love to hear more on policy and a firm grittiness from them, I do understand that Keir Starmer is doing the best he can, in that he can’t alienate a large proportion of the electorate so needs to toe the line.

Just look how badly Wales is being run. Now they have traffic moving at a crawl.

thats down to the drivers, noone needs to be speeding in a built up area

Which of Labour, the Lid Dems or the Greens was it that introduced laws that eroded womens (and mens) rights over the past 13 years then?

Why the consistent need to avoid this important question?

Some parents say they will move their children, but haven't and still drive around in SUVs.

Ok.

Presumably the Tories will campaign on this as it is the legacy of their 13 years in power.

Am I being unreasonable to point out that this part of their legacy disproportionately affects woman? Is this one of the advantages of knowing what a woman is, that some posters are so keen to repeat?

Labour or Lib dem depending on who is more likely to win the seat

People can vote Tory if they like, its the contortions to try and justify it that entertain me.
The party that has done more to erode womens rights in their time in government must be voted for because they know what a woman is.

That's a really interesting POV.

I've always been a swing voter and not affiliated to any party. But yes I'm feeling it's time for a Labour government right now.

You shouldn't be shocked. Even a collapsed Tory vote i still a huge number of people, and as constituency boundaries mean that Tories need more votes to get same number of seats as Labour (but they have won far more elections), I think the country is, generally, right leaning (Blair was of course centre-right heir of Thatcher)

So a lot of the "homeless" voters are probably those who are right-leaning but cannot stand current Tory incompetence and the resumption of Tory infighting

@LyndaLaHughes my husband and daughter work in the public sector. My dd is teaching and loving it, in a very difficult school. My son and I work in the quasi public sector which is responding to the market.

I wouldn’t have voted the NHS top in 2010 - and venture that the figures creating that score were manipulated. At about that time we received healthcare in Austria and France. It was head and shoulders better.

I am sorry you sound so unhappy.

These threads are generally like this

Imo with changes generally worldwide it is Labour that will start to stand out

Everywhere else will become more hardline on migration. It’s happening already if people look to the EU. The change to no by a fair few countries

Gender is an issue in many places but may unravel as the above switches. Hopefully

I take it you will be voting for whichever candidate is most likely to get rid of a Tory, since it is the Tories who have overseen the increase in migration and erosion of women's rights for the past 13 years?

You genuinely believe that every private school parent drives a SUV. Well that shows you are talking total crap.

Despite not liking Keir Starmer, definitely Labour. As a household with a teacher and a police officer it’s very clear which party cares about ordinary people who use public services. I think the philosophy of “think of the most vulnerable person you know and vote in their best interests” is a good one.

You’re very active on responding to every post that isn’t Labour but no.

It’s the changes in people movement I’m looking at and how parties will respond.

EU countries are already struggling to deal with it but are saying no. It’s not an easy thing to do in reality though.

Lampedusa is the start and it will ramp up.

That's the point!

They weren't policies or even proposals.

He took a report and twisted some narrative they wrote to decide that those could be proposals and then pretended to scrap them as policies to look like he was doing something.

Our Prime Minister - who we are meant to trust to run the country. 🤦🏼‍♀️

Well mines Braverman so very easy not to vote for local Tory.

She's never here anyway - only ever times up to the rich western wards if the area to visit cake shops and the hairdressers or the older rich community.

She couldn't give a flying fuck about the main town in the area she represents and after many years it's showing.

🤣🤣🤣

Your DH sounds brilliant

Lib Dem. They want to rejoin the EU and they'll remove the 2 child rule and benefit cap.

I haven't decided yet but as my MP is Rees-Mogg I won't be voting Conservative that's for sure.

@Dibblydoodahdah can you point to where I said that every private school parent drives an SUV?

I'm confused.

Is migration a priority for you?

If it is, presumably you won't be voting for the party that has overseen a massive increase in migration and a shambles of an immigration system?

I don't believe any party causes detriment to to wealthy people.

But the Tory's do and have caused it to those who aren't.

But if those with less have a fairer distribution of wealth then they can get better education, afford better housing and become less disenfranchised.

This in turn benefits the country as a whole and often the wealthy financially too.

Wealthy business owners can't be wealthy business owners if people don't have money to spend at their business.

You were the one mentioning SUVs. Focusing on a stereotype doesn’t help get your case across. The vast majority of the parents talking about removing their children are not driving SUVs and lots of private school parents don’t drive a SUV in any case. In fact, there has been a massive decrease in SUVs at my DC’s private school in recent years. People are driving electric or smaller petrol cars.

Recognising the huge surge in people movement that is coming is

You are confused yes that part is right though by bringing in work visas

Recently from France

According to Darmanin, Paris told Italy it was "ready to help them return people to countries with which we have good diplomatic relations," giving the example of Côte d'Ivoire and Senegal. But France "will not welcome migrants" from the island, he said, speaking on French television Tuesday evening.

Labour recently tried to do a returns and quota deal, ‘deluded’ was the response from EU.

I’m looking at all these Labour posts and where we’re going globally. It’s not going to get easier. And EU will strain even more