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Did you vote Tory? Did you hand BJ 'a colossal mandate'?

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Fordian · 06/07/2022 23:05

Do you feel you did?

Now. An aside. I think anyone who voted Leave but then didn't vote Tory is a charlatan. You wanted this, own this, support this.

If you either didn't vote, or voted other, shame on you. Where is your loyalty? Certainty in your conviction?

Yes, yes, we all know where this lead.

But your PM is citing you, the 14m, as being his mandate.

How do you feel about that?

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Jason118 · 11/07/2022 14:59

I've noticed from the general tone of political discussion especially on MN that many people prefer to descend into personal attacks rather than discussion around points of policy and principle. A good example is the Rwanda policy which is designed to appeal to the more xenophobic amongst us. If you remove that aspect and examine what's left, it makes no sense economically, or as a deterrent. And yet it is lauded by many. Very strange

Dogtooth · 11/07/2022 15:12

I think you're wrong that if you voted leave, you should have voted Tory too. Leave was a spanner in the works because it cut across party lines, the Tories then positioned themselves as the party of Brexit so they could tap into leave voters in addition to the Tory faithful who may well have voted remain.

The Tories are split on Brexit, that was the whole point the referendum was supposed to put to bed and the reason why Johnson purged a load of remainers from backbenches when he became leader.

Johnson is a populist. Under his leadership the party picked up a lot of votes. He's spaffed it all up the wall in a few short years, quite amusingly.

stuckdownahole · 12/07/2022 12:56

I voted Leave then didn't vote Tory in 2019.

I wanted to leave the EU but I felt that the referendum result was having a destabilising effect on the country.

Labour were offering months of dithering and then another referendum. It was a cop-out of a policy. They wanted to remain but didn't want to get off the fence and hoped the electorate would help them to climb down. That's not leadership! I didn't trust them not to shit their pants and collapse if referendum 2.0 produced a Leave 2.0 vote.

Tories under BoJo were in favour of implementing a hard Brexit at any cost, which I felt was reckless as is now being demonstrated by the mess in Northern Ireland. I also didn't like their other policies.

So I voted Lib Dem because although I didn't want to stay in the EU, they were at least offering a return to stability. If Labour had actually planned for a softer Brexit I would have voted Labour.

kewgirl · 12/07/2022 13:15

would vote anyone but Labour

Jason118 · 12/07/2022 13:45

would vote anyone but Labour

Why?

daisyjgrey · 12/07/2022 15:01

kewgirl · 12/07/2022 13:15

would vote anyone but Labour

That leaves quite an array of choices, all with very different ideologies. Can you explain why?

XingMing · 12/07/2022 21:21

Non-aligned, and uncomitted floating voter, but one that is repelled by the automatic accusation that Tory equals racist and sexist. When the 10 candidates for the Tory leadership are almost equally brown and/or female, and the Labour party always ends up with white men in grey suits, which is truly diverse?

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