The liberal media constantly slating Britain.

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I've never felt like this before. But over the past few months its become obvious, at least to my tiny brain, that the mainstream British media is trying to send the British public down a rabbit-hole of self-loathing.

England gave the world The Beatles, The Stones, Kinks; a universal language the world uses to this day. I fear we're sinking down a liberal sinkhole of self-loathing perpetrated by an over-educated liberal middle-class whose only interest is their own wealth. It's our history that makes true British people go out on their shield.

It's our history that makes true British people go out on their shield. There is no reason to be shamed about our history.

Remember when England produced hope and talent? England gave the world: The Beatles, The Rolling Stones, The Kinks, a universal language the world uses still to this day. I am fearing it's all going down a liberal sinkhole of self-loathing. It's our history that makes all Brits want to go out on their shield, not give-up and wave white flag. Okay, we made mistake. As an Englishman, I truly apologize. But we have to move on and learn. I think we have.

Even I can see now that those that pervade the British media have no interest in Britain. I've always been neutral and I suppose as one gets older and matures into a fully grown adult one becomes more conservative. But the constant slating of Britain, it's colonial history, etc. etc. It's really getting to me now.

I don't think it's embarrassing to be proud of being English without being labelled a racist or fascist. I think it's good to be English (British). I always laughed to myself when I filled-out my USA immigration form on the plane, not being sure if I am from England, or the UK. Who gives a toss? It's all the same thing. As a Union we are strong.

England, Scotland, Wales, N. Ireland. All the political egos at work need to reign-in their self-absorbed personal hatred right now. We all need to join together to form a strong trading-bloc on the international stage.

These days if you say you're English, you get arrested and thrown in jail

@12frogsincoats

These days if you say you're English, you get arrested and thrown in jail

No you don’t.

@bornatXmastobequiet No, really, these days, if you say you're English, you get arrested and thrown in jail

What a very odd post? Wtf are you on about?

[quote 12frogsincoats]@bornatXmastobequiet No, really, these days, if you say you're English, you get arrested and thrown in jail[/quote]
No, you don’t.

@bornatXmastobequiet Ah, but the cab driver said it. So it's clearly true. These days you get arrested and thrown in jail if you say you're English.

[quote 12frogsincoats]@bornatXmastobequiet Ah, but the cab driver said it. So it's clearly true. These days you get arrested and thrown in jail if you say you're English. [/quote]
OK of course it’s true. Happy Holidays.

I think go out on your shield is a misquote of the (supposed) Spartan saying "come back with your shield or on it" meaning either win the battle or die in the attempt. Of course, not being English the Spartans probably didn't do it right but at least they avoided being arrested.

@bornatXmastobequiet Happy holidays! Maybe this will cheer you up a bit

12frogsincoats, for some reason l misread your post as Happy Monday’s.

Much better than the Kinks or the Stones

Some bloke (as he says he’s a man) from Shields of Oak or some other delusional fringe nationalist keyboard warrior group creates Mumsnet page to share their conspiracy theories?

What an absolute load of tosh.

@Walkingtheplank

In answer to OP: DH and I were talking about this the other night. We couldn't listen to any more of the news because of the sneering tone, putting words in interviewees mouths - and all to tell us the Government is crap, Britain is crap, you the viewer are crap.

The lazy media stirred up Brexit by having Farage on the news every single day in the run up to the 2015 election, then again up to the 2016 referendum. If the public didnt want Brexit before 2015, they'd been convinced of it by the time of the referendum by the mainstream media. But those journalists were surprised by the result because they themselves were only listening to Twitter (not a cross-section of society) and their colleagues and smug mates in (north) London.

Post the referendum they ditched Farage but the damage was done. Now they switched to telling us everything the Government did was crap, everything the EU wanted was totally reasonable. The UK should start negotiating from a position of letting the EU have everything they want, all the better if it damaged UK sovereignty.

The 2019 election is announced. The media still havent understood their part in the 2016 referendum, are still only listening to Twitter and their mates and are flabbergasted by the Conservative landslide to deliver Brexit that the media encouraged. If they'd stopped telling the electorate they were stupid, the result might have been different.

This year we've repeatedly been told by the media that the UK is crap, the EU is great (I should point out here that I'm a Remainer) and they've not understood that the Government would not have lost votes if we'd ended up with No Deal - a lot of people wanted that - they were convinced of this by the media having Farage shoved down their throats a few years ago.

As it is journalist will be pouring over the trade agreement trying to find the compromises (which are a good thing) to enrage either side - with the central message that the UK compromised too much/little.

And through all this the journalists are still in a job, still in a nice home, still comfortable, still smug. They have little to lose. If they talk down our country, eventually it has an affect on our happiness, on our standing, even on jobs.
But they will be fine. They remain comfortable.

Well said. Especially the last paragraph

I love the way the Brexiteers think we are just going to shut up now. It's almost sweet. But as they spent years and years whining on about how the EU and its predecessor organisation was at the root of all our problems, it's rather naive to expect we won't do the same

Are you a journalist Bellinisurge??
No one whinged about the EU - maybe some Tories didn't like it but the public were stuck with them and got on with it.
Not so the Remoaners now- of which most of the London centric journalists are part.

Haha, if journalists and MPs had bothered to do their job properly back in 2015 they would actually have known which way the country, the people, their constituents, were going to vote. But no, too busy on Twitter pontificating with their friends.

OP - you make an excellent case for previewing and editing before clicking the post button.

DH and I were talking about this the other night. We couldn't listen to any more of the news because of the sneering tone, putting words in interviewees mouths

I feel it's as if the Uk has floated off into the middle of the Atlantic and no news beyond our borders (apart from the US) is required.
Just interminable bleating about Covid in the UK. The rest of the world has gone! apart from the BBC World Service though

‘No one whinged about the EU’ - you what?! Do you actually live in the U.K?

‘Haha, if journalists and MPs had bothered to do their job properly back in 2015 they would actually have known which way the country, the people, their constituents, were going to vote. But no, too busy on Twitter pontificating with their friends.’ - we the people didn’t universally vote for Brexit.

As others have pointed out - our printed media is largely owned by a small number of Conservative multi millionaires. If you are looking for ‘ra ra Britannia’ nationalistic and fact ignoring coverage, read the Express or Daily Mail. No shortage there. As for the ‘depressing’ and ‘un patriotic’ stories in the broadsheets, unpalatable as it may be we are not in a great economic place and our government has made some poor decisions. If you don’t like this coverage, don’t read it quite simply.

The Tory party were split over the EU. I don't recall others complaining -it was to fix the rift in the party once and for all - I'm not talking about the months up until the vote, Boris bus etc

Really? Drip drip drip in the right wing media for years. Eurosceptism didn’t come from nowhere and was nurtured by the tabloid press.
www.google.co.uk/amp/s/ethicaljournalismnetwork.org/resources/publications/ethics-in-the-news/media-lies-and-brexit%3famp

I am proud to be British. The BBC is very left wing. I am sick of hearing "despite Brexit" every time there is good news. They are very pro the EU.

OP, as a proud Englishman perhaps you should try and educate yourself a little. It's utterly depressing reading your poorly worded post.

The liberal elite are not your enemy. Sadly, the people you probably vote for do not have your interests at heart. They are using your emotions and your poor education against you.