Lifelong Labour supporters who feel we need a more robust leader than Corbyn, how are you voting?

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I have always voted Labour. I am a socialist. I loathe everything thé Tories have done to the disabled, to schools, their priorities are not mine. But I also feel strongly that Corbyn is incompetent. Thinking of voting Lib Dem with a heavy heart.
Any advice?

The stance where he is appalled at IRA bombings and against us bombing other countries? That stance?

I honestly still don't know who to vote for. It's a Labour safe seat where I am, really don't see the Tories ever getting in. So safe the Lib Dems and Greens have barely made an effort, finding anything about them is very limited. I like our Labour MP, just am increasingly finding I can't stand Corbyn and have concerns about quite a few of the policies.

Holding my nose and voting Labour. I love the manifesto and whilst I'm Corbyn-sceptic, I'm not going to enable the bloody Tories to set about the weak and the vulnerable so I can make some juvenile point about Corbyn through the ballot-box.

Like it or lump it, Corbyn is what we've got and you don't stop supporting your team because you don't like the current manager.

I would say vote Labour Their manifesto really gives me hope as a Mum and a Primary teacher. Better childcare , more protection at work and also keeping the free meals for under eight year olds What's not to like? I'm not particularly keen on May or Corbyn but the Labour Party have always been kinder to working and stay at home Mum and Dads

I would say vote Labour Their manifesto really gives me hope as a Mum and a Primary teacher.
But it's a fairy story, a bit like the Brexiteers and their money for the NHS. (Almost) everyone thinks the NHS needs more money, so a sure-fire winner was to say vote leave, and we'll save the NHS. Obviously, lies. Hope is a powerful emotion, but logic is needed.

In a similar way, (almost) everyone thinks schools and hospitals need more money. Put that in your manifesto, claim it's costed, and it gives people hope. But the figures really don't work.

I have two children planning 4+ year courses, and the manifesto would personally save the family c £9kx4x2 = £72k+ plus interest. We are not top-rate tax payers (and neither are 95% of the population), so we'd be quids in. We'll be retired soon, so another gain there.

But the claims just aren't true. Listen to More or Less on R4
www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b08sl5xt

So when the figures don't work, where will the money come from? And what about the latest vote-winning promises regarding cancelling existing student tuition fee debt? Will they just not carry out these promises? Will they borrow more? I despair of the current Labour party, and can't vote for them, even though I want more money for all these things.

I'm probably going to vote LibDems, who have suggested adding 1p on income tax for the 60% of people who actually pay any income tax. But they're not going to win where I live. However, I may just vote Tory, which I've never done, and would be distraught to do so. I think a hung parliament would be the worst disaster of all.

Labour as have an excellent local MP so happy to campaign and vote for her. But would vote LibDem to oust a Tory if I lived in a close Tory-held seat.

Think Tories will win though and feel they should have to clean up the mess they made over Brexit. Anything less than a landslide will look bad for TM and Labour will have some time to regroup before the next GE, hopefully with new leader and left of centre policies.

feel they should have to clean up the mess they made over Brexit
This is exactly what I feel, as it's bound to be a disaster, so they definitely wouldn't win the following election. This would, in theory, give Labour time to regroup... but...

hopefully with new leader and left of centre policies
There won't be a new leader. There might have been, if Labour had been heavily defeated, but that won't happen. You're lucky to have an excellent local Labour MP to vote for, though.

I'm hoping that his age will encourage him to go. He clearly does not want to be doing this and never expected to, but felt obliged to because of the vote. My worry is that he'll go after someone even worse is primed for leadership. But who knows? I've got to the point where nothing surprises me anymore!

You don't vote for the leader. Look at your local candidates and consider the manifesto. I worry Corbyn hasn't got what he needs to lead but then isn't anybody better than a Tory.

I despair of the left's inability to form some type of coalition.

More robust than sticking it out through two bloody leadership challenges, you mean? More robust than being relaxed and confident in the leadership debate the PM was too chicken to even attend?! Who are you kidding? He's the best Labour leader you're likely to get, and one of the best the party has ever had. I don't agree with his fatalistic approach to leaving the EU, and my local Labour MP is a cunt, so I won't be voting for him, but still.