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Trump (Part 6)

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claig · 17/12/2016 15:35

More on Trump

It is a Trump world and as the Modi saying goes

“Aab Ki Baar Trump Sarkar”

and as the Stump for Trump Sisters say

"Get on the Trump Train or get the hell out of the way"

Rock'n'roll

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BertrandRussell · 20/12/2016 21:13

Claig- how do you think Trump is going to defeat Isis?

Missswatch · 20/12/2016 21:14

With the military? You think he's going to negotiate with their leader?

BertrandRussell · 20/12/2016 21:16

What's he going to do with the military?

DeepanKrispanEven · 20/12/2016 21:28

Link as requested in relation to the rise in hate crime

claig · 20/12/2016 21:32

BertrandRussell, you need to study Conspiracy Theory 101

Isis have been funded by Saudi Arabia and Qatar and helped by Turkey to bring down Syria and its secular government in order to carve the country up and set up a Sunni Caliphate which will be a puppet client state through which the Qataris can run an oil pipeline to service Europe because Assad tuned down their offer to do a deal for that and preferred to go with an Iranian deal as they had been Syria's ally for decades as they were Shia. Billionaires and money men did "pay for play" with the Establishment's favourite liberal, Hellary Clinton, and Isis were armed with up-to-date weapons paid for by billionaires and then mercenaries from all over the Muslim world and out of Saudi Arabian jails etc were trained and set loose on Iraqi Shia and on Syria. Isis was created after the Free Syrian Army was not capable of toppling Assad with the "Assad must go" strategy.

Trump knows what is going on because he has top military advisers like General Mike Flynn who was head of Defence Intelligence. Trump will end Isis overnight by a couple iof phonecalls to their funders which will scare the bejeezus out of them and then he will do a deal with Putin where Putin will probably be allowed to go after Isis and finish them off in return for allowing safe zone building to be started so that the refugees can go back home.

That is one way of sorting it out. Whether that will happen, no one yet knows because there are lots of neocons who are anti Trump and want to carry on with the Cameron "Assad must go" stuff. It all depends what Trump does, but Trump can end the whole thing very, very quickly and I think he will because Trump doesn't need any "pay for play" in any charidee because he is super rich and above all that stuff.

He will work for America and because, unlike what the BBC and the world media and all their puppets said, he is a very decent guy, he will also care about all the people of the world and he cares about the tragedy that the Syrian people have undergone with all this "pay for play" stuff and Isis.

Trump is a great man, contrary to what the BBC, the Guardian and Channel 4 News always say. He has defied the elites and all their puppets and said he wants to end the stupid policies of backing Jihadis and he wants to get on with Russia. He may not be able to but he will at least try

He will also get the Saudis and other Middle East countries to pay for the rebuilding of Syria

TRUMP: I think going in was a terrible, terrible mistake. Syria, we have to solve that problem because we are going to just keep fighting, fighting forever. I have a different view on Syria than everybody else. Well, not everybody else, but then a lot of people. I had to listen to [Senator] Lindsey Graham, who, give me a break. I had to listen to Lindsey Graham talk about, you know, attacking Syria and attacking, you know, and it’s like you’re now attacking Russia, you’re attacking Iran, you’re attacking. And what are we getting? We’re getting — and what are we getting? And I have some very definitive, I have some very strong ideas on Syria. I think what’s happened is a horrible, horrible thing. To look at the deaths, and I’m not just talking deaths on our side, which are horrible, but the deaths — I mean you look at these cities, Arthur, where they’re totally, they’re rubble, massive areas, and they say two people were injured. No, thousands of people have died. O.K. And I think it’s a shame. And ideally we can get — do something with Syria. I spoke to Putin, as you know, he called me, essentially …"

www.nytimes.com/2016/11/23/us/politics/trump-new-york-times-interview-transcript.html?_r=0

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Lweji · 20/12/2016 21:33

Deepan, I'll be called snidey, but I'd bet those are lies spread by the communist Blairite elites and false reporting and if Farage says it's not increasing then it's because it's not.

Kaija · 20/12/2016 21:36

The police force are positively saturated with communist Blairite elites (CBEs). I know it's true because I read it on Breitbart.

DeepanKrispanEven · 20/12/2016 21:36

Trump's detachment from his business interests is very important in the scheme of things. If he wants to last in the Presidency, he has to be seen to have detached himself thoroughly from any whiff of corruption, and goodness knows he's in difficulty in that regard given the appointments he's made. If he gets impeached he won't be able to achieve any of those wonderful things that claig claims for him.

DeepanKrispanEven · 20/12/2016 21:38

Yes, Lweji, I'm only surprised that you got that response in before one of the Trumpers.

cozietoesie · 20/12/2016 21:39

.... The entire world's elite are scared. No one will cross Trump for long....

Such glorious innocence. Smile

BertrandRussell · 20/12/2016 21:39

"Trump will end Isis overnight"

Wow. It'll be fun seeing you wriggling out of that one..........

Missswatch · 20/12/2016 21:40

If he didn't use the US military he could fund the opposition

Lweji · 20/12/2016 21:41

Trump will end Isis overnight by a couple iof phonecalls to their funders which will scare the bejeezus out of them and then he will do a deal with Putin where Putin will probably be allowed to go after Isis and finish them off

That's a nice enough prediction and I'll be cheering on the 25th January (on account of the weekend and an extra day not to rush it) for the demise of ISIS.

I just don't understand why he'd need Putin to finish ISIS off if they were so swiftly destroyed.
Will that mean that Putin will enter Iraq?

Lweji · 20/12/2016 21:44

If he wants to last in the Presidency, he has to be seen to have detached himself thoroughly from any whiff of corruption,

I bet the GOP vultures will only be too happy to replace him with Pence.

Lweji · 20/12/2016 21:46

If he didn't use the US military he could fund the opposition

That's an interesting idea that the US has never used.
What opposition would you suggest?

claig · 20/12/2016 21:53

And the reason the media hate Trump, all the PPEs slag him off, is because the billionaire elites fear Trump like they have never feared anything else because Trump is not their puppet and he has taken back America and said "America First" and what terrifies them is when he told them

"we will no longer surrender this country or its people to the false song of globalism"

You could have heard a pin drop in Davos and in all the financial megapolises across the world when the elite heard that. Their hearts stopped momentarily and they broke out in a cold sweat and they immediately tuned in to the Trump rally where cheering Trump fans were going nuts and the first thing the elites heard was Trump shouting at full throttle

"America is back"

and the cries of USA USA USA from Trump fans frightened the world elites out of their skins and they all simultaneously fainted and after that they watched the rigged media polls everyday and believed the BBC when their PPEs told them not to worry because Trump stood no chance.

And then on election night, the elites stayed up all night along with us, and some were probably even on Mumsnet (as lurkers) to find out the latest from us right here as we all watched it live.

And finally the result was announced and Trump had won, and some MNers had won large bets because they had predicted it (not me unfortunately, I didn't put a bet on) and the elites sat in a corner and cried for two days solid while the people laughed.

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claig · 20/12/2016 21:59

'I just don't understand why he'd need Putin to finish ISIS off if they were so swiftly destroyed. '

I am not surprised you don't understand it.

It is called blowback, when Jihadis have been armed and then are not under full control and are independent and armed. Trump will force the funding to be cut, but then there will Jihadis and terrorists who are still armed and dangerous and they will have to be taken out and troops will be needed to do it.

Trump will probably do a deal to let the Russians and Syrians and Iranians do that part.

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Missswatch · 20/12/2016 22:18

What opposition would you suggest?

Women in the middle east who are fighting ISIS. Oddly enough they are forgotten about in the west

SouthallGirl · 20/12/2016 22:21

Claig - I have this in my files but cannot recall the source.

"In the entire Council on Foreign Relations lexicon there is no term of revulsion carrying a meaning as deep as ‘America First.’” The very term now frequently being used by Mr. Trump, in conjunction with ‘Make America Great Again.’ He chose well, then.

claig · 20/12/2016 22:23

Thanks, Southallgirl, I am not surprised. The reason they all tried to stop Trump is because he wanted to put "America First"

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Missswatch · 20/12/2016 22:41

I would like to see Trump send up to date gear, food and med supplies, M16A3's and LAW'S to these women. Drones too

The liberal idea of women walking up to ISIS members and going 'excuse me? Could you stop oppressing is? Thanks. Stop the rape too. Lets hold hands and sing ' is frankly childish, naive and dangerous

claig · 20/12/2016 22:42

Found that quote, it is out of a book

"In 1975 powerful CFR insider and former Judge Advocate General of the US Navy Admiral Chester Ward wrote in his book entitled Kissinger on the Couch about the ultimate aim of the Council on Foreign Relations:

[The CFR has as a goal] submergence of US sovereignty and national independence into an all-powerful one-world government… this lust to surrender the sovereignty and independence of the United States is pervasive throughout most of the membership… In the entire CFR lexicon, there is no term of revulsion carrying a meaning so deep as ‘America First.’

www.globalresearch.ca/one-world-governance-and-the-council-on-foreign-relations-we-shall-have-world-government-by-conquest-or-consent/5541363?print=1

Trump probably chose "America First" to wind the elites up Smile

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Lweji · 20/12/2016 22:45

Women in the middle east who are fighting ISIS. Oddly enough they are forgotten about in the west

Ah. Are they tribes composed completely of women? Amazon style?

Or are they part of groups of people who fight ISIS?

In which case, should the US support and arm only the women? Not the men?

Meanwhile, Farage acts even more than usual like an arse. All in the name of freedom of speech, I imagine.
To Jo Cox's husband:
“Yes well of course he would know more about extremists than me, Mr Cox."
“He backs organisations like Hope not Hate who masquerade as being lovely and peaceful but actually pursue violent and very undemocratic means."

Lweji · 20/12/2016 22:48

The liberal idea of women walking up to ISIS members and going 'excuse me? Could you stop oppressing is? Thanks. Stop the rape too. Lets hold hands and sing ' is frankly childish, naive and dangerous

You're misssunderestimating the power of kumbaya.

Missswatch · 20/12/2016 22:51

Don't be stupid this isn't DC's Wonderwoman. There all-women regiments. Seems like you don't want them funded