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Trump (Part 3)

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claig · 29/11/2016 16:13

The last one filled up quickly.

More discussion on the significance of Trump, Trumpism and the Trumpsters and what it all means for Blairites.

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SouthallGirl · 02/12/2016 18:38

It's a laptop, I see. I use only PCs - hate laptops, want to shoot laptops. Windows 10 is the one where you can either have touch-screen for everything or keyboard strokes?

I too backup on an external HD, in fact I backup the whole computer environment not just files.

Missswatch · 02/12/2016 18:42

100 days for this woman

www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-trump-graffiti-20161201-story.html

Crazy look? Check. Blue Hair? Check. SJW confirmed

Lweji · 02/12/2016 18:43

we the British people have damaged with our rebellion against our servants in Brexit

Servants?
Freudian slip?

claig · 02/12/2016 18:57

'Freudian slip?'

Nope. Servants of the elites.

Crazy look? Indeed. Looks like she has just come out of a mind numbing Hillary rally. I have seen that look before on "I'm With Her" supporters.

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Lweji · 02/12/2016 18:58

Oh, was that a quote from someone else?
You don't make it easy to read.

claig · 02/12/2016 19:02

'Oh, was that a quote from someone else? '

No it was mine and I was trying to keep it short so it wasn't clear.

Back to the crazy look in Missswatch's link. I remember where I have seen that look before. It was Hillary on the night of the election when someone informed her she had lost.

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Lweji · 02/12/2016 19:05

So, what do you mean by "our servants" as it means your?
Who are your servants there?

claig · 02/12/2016 19:09

By "our", I mean our political class. I am being sarcastic as if they are "ours" i.e as if they serve us when in fact they serve the elites and say they serve we the people. They spin us that they serve us, but really they answer to the elites.

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claig · 02/12/2016 20:03

Stump for Trump Sisters, Diamond and Silk, "give their take" "straight from the gate" on free speech, political correctness and Fidel Castro. Beware, they tell it like it is, this ain't the BBC, this is Diamond and Silk

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user1480456651 · 03/12/2016 00:45

claig Trump is going to cause mayhem. Is that acceptable?

claig · 03/12/2016 09:11

Mayhem among the elites, yes.

Is that acceptable? Absolutely, it's about time.

Don't worry, the elites are scared of Trump, they won't try their mayhem.

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Kaija · 03/12/2016 09:22

The elites will of course be fine. It's ordinary people whose lives will be blighted by Trump.

Lweji · 03/12/2016 09:27

So true.

Lweji · 03/12/2016 09:54

It looks like bull in China shop is quite apt:

Donald Trump's phone call with Taiwan president risks China's wrath

www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/dec/03/trump-angers-beijing-with-provocative-phone-call-to-taiwan-president

He really needs to start taking advice from the State Department. Or you'll get WWIII before he even begins hs term. Shock

Kaija · 03/12/2016 10:10

Yes. Hearing this on the news this morning I found myself wondering about at what point his online cheerleaders stop cheering. As his shit hits the fan of international relations will they quietly shrink away, or will they be like Major Kong on the Enola Gay at end of Dr Strangelove:

m.youtube.com/watch?v=wcW_Ygs6hm0

Lweji · 03/12/2016 10:16

And he praised the Philippines war on drugs that has been killing thousands.

We'll need all fingers and toes crossed for 4 years.
If he lasts that long.
There was a comment about future investments in Taiwan. He may be impeached not long after taking office.

squishysquirmy · 03/12/2016 10:27

There will be a core of fervent fans for whom his most stupid actions will be taken as further evidence of how different (and therefore great) he is.....

claig · 03/12/2016 11:07

If you really want to understand what is going on in the world and the earthquake people's revolution that has only just begun, then it is worth reading teh liberal Simon Jenkins in the Guardian. Jenkins usually gets lots of things wrong, but now he is starting to get things right.

Boris Johnson is clueless, which is why he insulted Trump and liek so many puppets called Trump "unfit". Johnson is the ancien regime, Oxbridge, he has not yet been able to adapt to the people's revolution and understand how much the world has changed.

"Boris Johnson may wish otherwise, but the old world order is finished"

www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/dec/02/boris-johnson-foreign-policy-old-world-order

And now Jenkins understands why Trump defeated the useless elites and their only means of stopping the people - political correctness, the bullies who shout "racist" at anyone who disagrees with them, the Blairites, the Oxbridge class of servants.

"Blame the identity apostles – they led us down this path to populism
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I confess I find all this somehow exhilarating. Cliches of left and right have lost all meaning, and institutions their certainty. Even in France and Italy, European union is falling from grace. A rightwing US president wins an election by appealing to the left. In Britain, Ukip can plausibly claim to be supplanting Labour. A Tory prime minister attacks capitalism, while Labour supports Trident. Small wonder Castro gave up and died.

Conventional wisdom holds that it is the “centre left” that has lost the plot. The howls that greeted Brexit, Donald Trump and Europe’s new right are those of liberals tossed from the moral high ground they thought they owned. Worse, their evictors were not the familiar bogeys of wealth and privilege, but an oppressed underclass that had the effrontery to refer to a “liberal establishment elite”.

Paul Krugman, field-marshal of an American left, stood last week on his battered tank, the New York Times, and wailed of Trump’s voters: “I don’t fully understand this resentment.” Why don’t the poor blame the conservatives?

Tony Blair of I don't understand what is going on in politcs any more. Tosspot Smile

It is 20 years since the philosopher Richard Rorty predicted that a Trump-like “strong man” would emerge to express how “badly educated Americans feel about having their manners dictated to them by college graduates”.
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Lilla is scathing of the “whitelash” excuse, which licenses liberals to abuse those voting for Trump and Brexit as racists, and political correctness as yet another rightwing conspiracy. To him, these voters are poor people who fear for the integrity of their communities and see globalism as a mis-selling scam. They may be wrong, but they’re not evil.
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For myself, I cheer as people protest that it no longer “means” anything to be left or right, liberal or conservative. If the left is so lacking in confidence it needs to launder itself as “progressive”, that is fine by me. But I just want to kick over the tables, rip up the rule books, get on with the debate. I want to re-enact the glorious revolution of 1832.

And Simon Jenkins is Oxbridge, Oxford PPE to boot. So they are not all stupid there, not all servants

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British liberals, of whatever party, have spent the past six months fleeing one trauma after another, hurling insults over their shoulders. But as John Stuart Mill said: “He who knows only his own side of a case, knows little of that.”

The apostles of identity liberalism have fallen into Mill’s trap. They see authoritarianism in others, but not in themselves. They see discrimination in others, but not their own. In guarding their chosen tribes, they fail democracy’s ultimate test, of tolerance for the concerns of those with whom they disagree. Someone else is always to blame.

Such tunnel vision has jeopardised the progress made by the cause of European liberalism over the past half-century. It has been given a bloody nose, and there are more on the way."

www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/dec/01/blame-trump-brexit-identity-liberalism

It's a revolution. The people have had enough of what Trump called the "very, very stupid people" we are all led by, the "dummies" as Trump calls them, these servants who have their strings pulled and do what they are told.

On Sunday, in Italy and Austria, the puppets will probably be defeated again as the populist rebellion sweeps the servants out of power.

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claig · 03/12/2016 11:32

"Tony Blair's call to mobilise against Brexit sparks mixed response

Former PM called a snake-oil salesman by one Tory MP after his appeal to remain voters, while No 10 says there will be no second referendum
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Reaction to Blair’s article and subsequent radio interview – in which he said of those who opposed leaving the EU, “We are the insurgents now” – was more scathing elsewhere, with one Tory MP calling the former prime minister a “snake-oil salesman”.
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Writing in the New European, Blair said: “The issue is not whether we ignore the will of the people, but whether, as information becomes available, and facts take the place of claims, the ‘will’ of the people shifts. Maybe it won’t, in which case people like me will have to accept it. "

www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/oct/28/tony-blair-remain-voters-to-mobilise-against-brexit

How stupid Blair and his ilk are. They can't see what is happening right before their eyes.

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Kaija · 03/12/2016 11:32

"There will be a core of fervent fans for whom his most stupid actions will be taken as further evidence of how different (and therefore great) he is....."

Yes, as confirmed by that last post from Claig

Kaija · 03/12/2016 11:38

Well it's true enough that Remain voters are mobilising against hard Brexit. And they have youth and education on their side.

Kaija · 03/12/2016 12:08

Michael Deacon excellent here on how the use of the word "elite" now excludes multi-millionaires using their power to protect their assets at everyone else's expense but instead simply means "liberal". He must have been reading these threads...

www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/2016/12/02/rich-men-like-trump-can-claim-anti-elite-get-away/

claig · 03/12/2016 12:15

Can't read it because the Telegraph has recently gone "elitist" and put their articles behind a paywall so that the people can't read them and only the elite and those on expenses, and bathplugs, paid for by the public can read them.

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Kaija · 03/12/2016 12:20

It's free to register.

claig · 03/12/2016 12:24

Register? You don't need to register to read the Daily Mail.
Register? Big Bruvver?

"you ain't no people's newspaper, bruv"

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