Excited about the Labour leadership announcement

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For full disclosure I'm a Jeremy Corbyn supporter. I'm quite excited and hopeful that he's won again. Anyone else feeling it?!

i can't vote for anyone else, i won't campaign for that man (or Seumas/John who are the puppetmasters here)

Bakewell, small mercies ?

I read Lilian Greenwood's account of trying to work with JC again the other day. Just awful.

I loved the bit where Ken commented that his wife found J Corbyn to be the nicest man she'd ever met!

It did make me laugh..

Another born and bred northerner who can't stand Jeremy Corbyn - who, by the way, is about as metropolitan elite as they come. All he does is pop on his crumpled suit, bumble around looking a bit bewilderedsuit trot out a few soundbites ("I think we can all agree that food should taste nice") and people think he's principled and a man of the people.

That doesn't even make sense. This is what he's reduced me to - incoherent ramblings!

Agree with Somerville. It's horrifying that we will end up as - effectively - a one party state. I know people are disenchanted with the old political norms and structures; I know that young people like his idealism and the fact that he stands for something different. But Britain is a centrist nation; at the heart of it, Ed Milliband was too left wing to win. If you want to pull the country leftward, then you need a seat at the table - and that means votes and winning seats. And outside the bubble of his core supporters, I don't think Corbyn can do that.

JC is a fucking electoral disaster for Labour.

I don't disagree with him per se, I just think he's totally ineffectual. He only ever preaches to the choir. His audiences seem to be full of adoring fans.

I used to vote for him when I livedin his constituency. I'll be voting Lib Dem next time.

People in the northern heartlands need a voice and I say this as someone who has lived in the Tory Home Counties nearly all my life. For the sake of national unity we can't just dismiss great swathes of the north west ad stupid.

People in the northern heartlands need a voice

I absolutely agree. Which is why Corbyn is such a disaster. Without a strong Labour mandate (even in opposition) these traditional Labour voters are out in the cold. More worryingly still, they may turn to the likes of UKIP. Corbyn does not offer them that voice.

The popularity of UKIP is making the conservatives more right wing than ever. UKIP are shaping government more than ever inspite of only having one MP.

London is becoming seperated from the rest of the U.K. politically. At least George Osbourne has made a lame attempt to help northern cities with his northern powerhouse idea. Corbyn isn't even prepared feign/pretend interest in places like Manchester or Hull or Leeds. I suspect the current leader thinks civilisation stops any further north than the Watford Gap service station.

I hope the lib dems rise from the dead.

I'm dreading the announcement. Bye bye Labour. Still, at least Momentum will have their new campaign name ready - good job it was registered June 2015 . New Hope For Labour, eh? beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/officers/dDYN2AsbOQyaggamRlnCpvYY9tw/appointments

He's won. I've already cancelled my membership.

The fact that most of the pro-Corbyn posts on this thread come from a single poster who has been blowing UKIP's trumpet on Mumsnet for some years now probably tells you everything you need to know.

And if anyone was in any doubt as to why UKIPpers would be promoting Cirbyn at this point, it's what Natalia said:

I absolutely agree. Which is why Corbyn is such a disaster. Without a strong Labour mandate (even in opposition) these traditional Labour voters are out in the cold. More worryingly still, they may turn to the likes of UKIP. Corbyn does not offer them that voice.

That yougov polling that showed JC winning easily also showed that a clear majority of people who'd joined before he won last time want him out.

The only hope is that enough moderates join to outweigh the Corbynites.

Corbyn, McDonnell, Thornberry, Abbott.....

Theresa May must be reasonably confident about 2020 lol.

Seriously, the lack of an opposition is really bad for democracy. And GE night will be far less interesting. I've voted Lab and Cons in the past but I wouldn't vote for that Labour shower.

I voted for Jeremy last time. But this time I voted for Owen. I left it until an hour or two before voting closed as I was so unsure. Jeremy will definitely win though. I'm so fed up about it all. He'll win, the plp will continue acting like a bunch of spoilt kids, the press will continue to make a mockery of it all, the tories will continue to govern unchecked by an effective opposition. It's all so depressing.

I don't understand how so many Labour supporters have no problem with the rife and growing anti Semitism that is ruining the party. I think it is very frightening.

Because principles don't equal competence. Above all the leader of a major political party needs to be competent at leading a party.

Those of you who are optimistic that he will lead Labour to Victory, which of his policies do you think will persuade the large number of Tory voters needed to win an election to switch to Labour?

So much I agree on here, but these two posts about sum up my position.

at the idea that JC will galvanise millions of younger voters into getting round to registering to vote and making the effort to go to the polling stations for the first time. Is it not the case that most younger people wanted to Remain and one reason the Leave camp won is because not enough young people bothered to vote? And is it not also the case that the majority of Labour voters did not know that Labour's official position was to support Remain? Corbyn went on holiday during the referendum campaign fgs!

It's very, very dispiriting. The Tories must be unable to believe their luck.

I lived in his constituency for five years

I've lived in around 25 different constituencies over 42 years in this country.

I have never seen any of the fuckers - apart from the weeks coming up to voting time when I would get flyers through the door.

I would have voted for Jeremy last time - if The Labour Party had let me back in again. After a lifetime (over 30yrs) of membership evidently joining the greens in 2015 was enough to bar me from rejoining. Trident was, in the end, the killer issue for me. Morally I could not back a party that was willing to spend obscene amounts of money on a weapon of mass destruction rather than the NHS and education.

My dd2 - 23 and a very unpolitical animal up to this point - watched that leadership battle, began to seek out information on JC. Joined the LP while at Uni, found she was not able to vote due to the new membership rules, paid the £25 and is now enthusiastic and politically engaged. I'm a bit gobsmacked to see this transformation being brought about by JC (who was my own MP. For a while when I lived in London ).

He is not the most inspiring or dynamic of speakers - but people like my DC are attracted by his voting record on key issues over the decades, and the policies he is putting forward - which actually are a socialist alternative to the Tories, not the Blairite Tory-light.

If the plp got behind him they could work AS A BLOODY TEAM to take on the Tories. At the moment they are behaving like spoilt toddlers IMO. Milliband changed the voting rules to break what they thought was a union stronghold on the party, they were relying on an assumption of political apathy on the part of ordinary members to ensure power rested with the PLP.

Tens of thousands of people have turned out, willing to stand outside in the rain for meetings led by an elderly, uncharismatic, bearded socialist. ..... I've never seen anything like it.

Work as a team when MP's are under police protection and others have been threatened by supporters of Corbyn to which he has turned a blind eye

Livingston made it clear the other day mp's that don't toe the line will be deselected

Corbyn made a career out of being a backbench MP that constantly voted and rebelled against his party but that was principled and what other mp's are not

It will get far worse MP's will try and do their job but when you are lead by a leader that is not up to the job that will not engage with you that is only interested in his vision of the Labour Party one that is shown to be unelectable how can it work

I hope mp's just put their heads down get on with their work and sadly let Corbyn do what he wants he will ruin the party for the next few years by then many of his passionate supporters will have become bored and see that his enthusiastic attendance at rallies is all he is about policies and how they are managed is something he doesn't bother himself too much with

Maybe your dd needs to read up on his connections and think seriously is this a man you want as PM?

I'm not excited he's appalling. He's a single minded obstinate person stuck in the 70's. He has absolutely no leadership qualities whatsoever. He had the largest resignation of cabinet members ever. They resigned not just because of his policies, they would in the most part work with those but because he's impossible, unprofessional and because he uses his minions to intimidate for him. It's his way or the highway. I've listened to interview after interview with those who have left his cabinet and it's the same story.

Under his leadership anti-semitism is rampant, Jewish MP's are being given 24 hour protection and being threatened and intimidated. No doubt other minority MP's are being treated the same way.

I'm no Theresa May fan, I've never voted Tory but at least they have a proper leader. JC is an absolute joke and I don't know 1 person who would ever vote for him

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