What happens if Trump wins?

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I know the comments Trump has made about blocking Muslims from the USA, and building a wall between the states and Mexico. But what will the world look like if he becomes president? People seem to be afraid of his success and suggest we 'should push the button now' or that he will be assassinated. Surely he comments are to stir up media interest?

Read something earlier but can't find it now but found this.

www.thestar.com/news/world/2016/07/31/is-donald-trump-ok-erratic-behaviour-raises-mental-health-questions.html

I think Trump is dangerous and would be a disgrace to the office but there really is a limit to what he can do. He and Pence cannot overturn Roe v Wade. All they can hope to do is fill enough vacancies on the supreme court with justices likely to overturn it - or chisel away at it. But he can't just get any nutjob onto the supreme court. Congress has to approve. Really the US constitution is a good system of checks and balances. And even then, the most conservative judge can be surprising

This is true, Canyou. It's the same thing I keep trying to tell our right wing friends about the 2nd Amendment which they are all 1000% convinced Hillary is going to (literally) 'throw out' of the Constitution. Throw. it. out. all. by. herself. Some of them are voting for Trump on that one single premise, even though they think he will NOT be good for the country on any other issue. And I quote one of them "Fuck, Trump's an asshole. But I'm voting for him because Hillary is going to TAKE MY GUNS!". Sigh, you can't fix stupid.

The real fear, to me, is not so much the stacking of the Supreme Court as the fear of having a GOP House and Senate. This could lead to any number of 'road block' laws that, whilst not abolishing RvW, could make accessing abortion services next to impossible for all but those with the means to travel and/or pay cash. Same for gun control legislation, it could be blocked or watered down to the point of being ineffective.

The Supreme Court stacking is scary. But as you say, any judge can 'jump ship' as it were, if the case warrants it.

My secret hope is that Claig is just a troll stirring up support for the opposite of what they're writing.

Because that's all it does to me inside.

onething, millions of people support Trump.

I think he will still win even though the media and Republican elite are against him. I think he will win the people's vote despite all the bad publicity.

You said that about ukip in the general election.

'You said that about ukip in the general election.'

I never said they would win the general election, how could they against the Establishment? I was surprised that they got half the votes that the 116 year old Labour Party got.

'Claig' writes in different styles which suggests a collective.

Liney, troll hunting, too clever by half.

Not only does Trump have to fight the left wing media, CNN, the BBC etc, but he also has to fight Fox. It is amazing the forces ranged against him, but I am fairly certain he will still make it.

millions of people support Trump

That does not make him a Good Thing.
See shit and flies...

"Barack Obama is clearly terrified by the prospect of a Trump presidency

Under practically any other circumstances, what Barack Obama just did would strike many people as entirely inappropriate.

The sitting president denounced one of the two major candidates to succeed him in the office as "unfit to serve" and suggested that he wouldn’t be able to "function as president."

Obama suggested that, unlike past presidential nominees of both parties, Donald Trump is uniquely lacking in "basic knowledge," "basic decency," "judgment," and "temperament." He implied Trump wouldn’t respect the United States’ "norms and rules," its "constitutional traditions," or the "rule of law.""

www.vox.com/2016/8/2/12353410/obama-trump-unfit

They are pulling out all the stops to prevent Trump winning. But I doubt it will work for them.

It is amazing the forces ranged against him.

He is such a gallant little underdog.

'That does not make him a Good Thing.'

It does to Trump supporters, just as Brexit did to Brexit supporters and not to Cameron and his team.

It does to Trump supporters

Yes, agreed.

just as Brexit did to Brexit supporters and not to Cameron and his team.

Nor lots of other people.

Oh Claigbot

Fox is pro Trump - as is Vox in the main (the one you have so deftly copied and pasted)

Unless even Murdoch is seeing the light and realises the Trump fascist is out of control even for him - if he is then maybe Fox will turn against Trumpton Town

Fascist is what fascist does I guess

I would also say Claig that you do have a running theme of promoting awful politicians

Trump, Farage, Le Pen and the lovely Corbyn

Anyone see a theme?

I know what you say about checks and balances is right. I just shrink in horror at the prospect of a presidential team set on destroying women's rights so openly. I also think the chances of an impeachment are high, leaving us with an untalented, mediocre Tea Party dullard as President.

I also agree that the events of the last week have damaged Trump, visibly in the polls, and in his support from his own party. We can only hope that this continues as he is literally his own worst enemy.

Claig, you are, to put it simply, delusional. Trump has shown not one iota of support for 'the people' in his entire lifetime. His whole (unsuccessful) business career has shown him ready to exploit workers, rip people off and discriminate against African-Americans and any other minorities that offend him. Your links are ludicrous if you actually read them - eg his enormous Muslim vote is 7% of 15% who identify as Republican, which the writer of the article puts down to name recognition and little more. This man has never shown the slightest inclination to public service or standing up for the masses. He is rabble rousing, so feel free to be one of the rabble, but he is appealing to fear and desperation and treading on both to achieve power for his own ends.

Showmethewaytogohome, I don't think you have watched Fox, there are only a few hosts who support Trump, there is huge airtime given to those saying Trump has "blown it" etc

Vox is mainly left wing.

'if he is then maybe Fox will turn against Trumpton Town'

Murdoch hedged his bets, hasn't thrown his full weight behind Trump. Some US commentators are saying that there may be a coup going on in Fox where it will turn more to the centre.

Yes, I like Trump, Farage and Corbyn. I haven't promoted Le Pen.

And pretty much every single bit of bad publicity that man has had has come out of his own mouth. Quite how you can interpret that as liberal lies is beyond me, but you do make sterling efforts to defend these bigots.

dogwood the closest I can remember coming to anything regarding 'mental fitness' was back in '72 when it was 'revealed' that Thomas Eagleton (McGovern's VP pick) had had ECT and been hospitalized three times for depression and stress. There was a national outcry and he ended up withdrawing because of it.

There's nothing constitutionally to stop a person with any type of illness (physical or mental) from running for president. I expect that issue wouldn't have been on our forefather's radar in 1787 as people with a serious illness/disability/mental illness would probably have been somewhat excluded from mainstream society, let alone from the male/power hierarchy.

There's nothing constitutionally to stop a person with any type of illness (physical or mental) from running for president

That's interesting, thank you.
Personally, I don't think a history of any kind of illness should prevent anybody from reaching for the highest office, but being actively unwell seems another matter altogether to me.

I doubt Trump will be impeached.

'I also agree that the events of the last week have damaged Trump, visibly in the polls, and in his support from his own party.'

I think it is temporary. Trump has been fighting his own party from the beginning and will be doing so until the end. Today he has said he is not ready to endorse Paul Ryan and John McCain in their reelection battles. Paul Ryan maay even lose depending on how many Trump fans exist in his state.

'Trump has shown not one iota of support for 'the people' in his entire lifetime. '

Trump has opposed the free trade deals like NAFTA and TPP and the Iraq War and Mid East wars for years, unlike Establishment Hillary. Hillary has had to change her position on TPP due to Bernie and Trump.

'his enormous Muslim vote is 7% of 15% who identify as Republican, which the writer of the article puts down to name recognition and little more'

Trump is not going to win by depending on the Muslim vote, but he does have more support from Muslims than Romney had.

'but he is appealing to fear and desperation and treading on both to achieve power for his own ends.'

He is appealing to hope 'make America great again' which is why his pro job anti free trade anti Establishment message has resonated with so many Americans to the utter dismay of Davos and the world's political elite.

All his opponents have left is to try to create fear about Trump by saying he is "unfit for office" etc

I would also say Claig that you do have a running theme of promoting awful politicians

No, I see it as claig promoting any politician who is anti-establishment, nothing wrong with that. Farage will go down in the history books as the politician who took us out of the EU - that's some achievement.

Ignorance of world events didn't stop George W storming into the White House. But Trump is very obviously unstable. He is utterly unable to debate without reacting disproportionately: he cannot accept any criticism, while simultaneously dishing out extreme insults (Hillary the actual devil???). It is apparent to the world that this man is not suitable for political office. Yes, Claig, the elite.

Weird then that pretty much all the jobs in the Trump empire are based outside the US.