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Stop Corbyn Plan

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Redkite2015 · 22/08/2015 10:36

Only way to stop Corbyn from Labour leader is to cancel the election, re-invite the nominations and make sure that 'morons' don't nominate Corbyn again.

See the plot. AB camp is calling for urgent meeting with Labour HQ. Many genuine Labour supporters being denied vote. What else 'any one but Corbyn' can do now?

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squidzin · 04/09/2015 18:03

The next 5 years will be political hell.

In-fighting, Tory opposition, Westminster opposition, elitist press opposition, Establishment upheaval, Corbyn a one man entity against the tidal wave.

We will back our leader.

Redkite2015 · 05/09/2015 04:52

Yes, all these factors exist, but if Labour unite behind their Leader, Corbyn would have at least given them a new direction.

Who knows who would be leading Labour in next 5 years. Corbyn is already 70 plus. Labour would have new policies which are people's preferences like gradual take over of railways and utilities, non-privatisation of NHS, more investment in schools and infrastructure, reducing university fees etc. with Corbyn leading Labour, Tories would not have easy time either.

Ratings of other Labour contender clearly show that Tories would have swallowed them in one easy bite.

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DinosaursRoar · 05/09/2015 07:34

oh redkite - he might look 70+ but he's 'only' 66! But yes, he's unlikely to still be the leader of the labour party by the 2025 election.

Redkite2015 · 05/09/2015 08:03

Ah, meant would be 70ish at next election. Thanks for correction.

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Redkite2015 · 05/09/2015 08:31

I must remember to have tea before going on the net.

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claig · 05/09/2015 11:42

The Stop Corbyn plan seems to be over for now. The Oxbridge modernisers have admitted defeat. The Establishment is planning their next move.

"Tristram Hunt tells party to 'forget talk of split' if Jeremy Corbyn wins
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He warned: “Those of us who advocate modernisation risk becoming a spent force in the debate about the future of the Labour party. In the current leadership election, we focused too much on restoring policies from the 1990s rather than a programme for the 2020s focused on the way the world is now."

www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/sep/04/tristram-tells-party-to-forget-talk-of-split-if-jeremy-corbyn-wins

What an amazing turnaround for the people. The end of teh "modernisers" which will of course also mean the end of the same "modernisers" in the Tory Party. The entire Blairite tendency is over for good. It ain't a coming back.

"Jeremy Corbyn is here to stay and the Labour Party is never going to look the same again"

www.independent.co.uk/voices/comment/jeremy-corbyn-is-here-to-stay-and-the-labour-party-is-never-going-to-look-the-same-again-10487399.html

Meanwhile Corbyn wows the crowds in Essex - which is Tory/UKIP territory.

"It's not natural Labour territory. The party has lost every election here since 1950. At this year's general election, the Conservatives were returned with an 18,000 majority.

But the people of Chelmsford, in Essex, were queuing round the block outside the city's civic theatre to hear Jeremy Corbyn.
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'No artifice or spin'

"He's a breath of fresh air," says Helen Davenport, a teacher who had left the Labour party for the Greens. "I gave up hope," she says. "But now there's an alternative. I like his ideas on renationalising rail and he has a more sympathetic policy on immigration. He has the wisdom of Tony Benn."

Sasha McLoughlin agrees: "It's the first time a Labour leader has represented me in years. You vote Labour because that's what you do but it's so exciting to have a leftwing leader, not a Tory in disguise."

Further up the line was Gerard Darcy. He says he wasn't a natural Corbyn supporter but found him to be "straight-talking".

He went on: "There's no artifice. No spin. The other candidates are preened, moulded. He looks like a 70s sociology lecturer but people are now in to the issues, not the image - no one cares about what his smile looks like."

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-34156274

It is the end of spin, the end of PR, the end of focus groups, the end of teh Oxbridge teams, the teenage whizzkids, the think tank Kevin Turveys, the end of lies, the end of bullshit. But while Labour eradicates the whole lot of that, the Tories still have the same old faces saying the same old spin, so the public will soon tire of the Tories and rally to Corbyn and the real Labour people.

"Not a criticism he would level at himself. So how has a left-winger who had languished on the backbenches - someone to whom Ed Miliband's former chief of staff Lucy Powell admits to never having spoken - now become something of an international celebrity?"
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He had to "max out" his credit card to get the campaign started"

It was the people wot dun it, not the Sun and their public school editorial teams

"But Corbyn insists "there is a thirst for doing politics differently". We will find out just how many people are drinking in his ideas a week from now."

The people are drunk with hope. The elite is in panic, every bigwig has been told to get out there and read from their pagers to fool the people for the final time. It ain't gonna work, we've been there, heard it all before, all the smarmy spin and lies, the people can't take any more.

ALassUnparalleled · 05/09/2015 11:50

"He has the wisdom of Tony Benn."

Oh good grief. The wisdom of Tony Benn - that is a bit like the empathy of Margaret Thatcher - both non existent

claig · 05/09/2015 12:11

Not only has Corbyn got the wisdom of Tony Benn, the calm of Cool Hand Luke and the saintly patience of Gandhi, but he also has the straight-talking honesty of Nigel Farage. It's unbeatable. It's the people vs the elites.

"An Indian diplomat who saw one of Corbyn’s speeches recently told me that Corbyn’s methods remind him of an episode from Gandhi’s life. Gandhi had urged a boycott of Lancashire’s cotton mills because their products were destroying the livelihoods of Indian textile workers. Everyone expected trouble when the Mahatma decided to visit Lancashire in 1931 to speak directly to the mill workers. What greeted Gandhi instead were unanimous cheers from the working classes of Darwen. Racial suspicions that had worked for so long to the benefit of a tiny minority abruptly dissolved. At a public meeting, one of the workers laid off by the local mill owners said, “I am one of the unemployed, but if I was in India I would say the same thing that Mr Gandhi is saying.”

The understated empathy of ordinary Britons, rarely reflected in the deportment of their nation’s overweening ruling elites, is what Gandhi tapped into – and it is what Corbyn is tapping into."

www.independent.co.uk/voices/heres-how-jeremy-corbyn-engaged-ukip-voters-without-ever-uttering-a-word-against-immigrants-10486868.html

'Corbyn, the Indian diplomat of my earlier conversation said, “is a keen student of Gandhi. He’s averse to algorithm politics – you input this value, you generate that result. He’s investing in engagement and persuasion.” It sounds simple - but politicians everywhere seem to have forgotten how to do it.'

It's not even as complicated as that. Corbyn doesn't need to persuade, he only needs to turn up. He receives a hero's welcome and a standing ovation whenever he just turns up and enters (just like Farage), because he represents the truth, he represents honesty, he represents the people against the elites.

squidzin · 05/09/2015 14:11

I've been sayin that about Ghandi all along Wink

Ken Livingstone also pro-Corbyn on the Indy

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/ken-livingstone-interview-why-i-think-jeremy-corbyn-could-lead-britain-10487436.html

Not saying I love Ken

LightningOnlyStrikesOnce · 05/09/2015 18:47

Claig does get a little carried away sometimes... Smile Corbyn's a voice, finally, for the left. Thankfully a decent principled sort who they can't stick much mud too - we needed someone who couldn't be put down easily - but he will have idiosyncracies and see only what he can see like anyone else. He is spearheading a movement now, but he is not irreplaceable. Let's hope the movement proves equally durable of itself.

Redkite2015 · 05/09/2015 22:40
Smile The race is coming to an end. Finally. Corbyn, if elected as more likely than not, would have to work very very hard. Not only for re-nationalisation of utilities, Railways etc, he will have to fight infighting and Tiry propaganda machinery. Not an easy task but hopefully, he will survive and put his mark for future Lanour leaders to follow.
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LightningOnlyStrikesOnce · 06/09/2015 11:04

Bloody hope so because we sure as hell need that left voice now.

Worse thing we can do for the whole movement is start pinning it all on one person, I think.

claig · 07/09/2015 21:09

BBC Panorama programme just now, BBC desperation, last minute desperate appeal to Stop Corbyn?

Quotes from the programme

"The Corbyn campaign has transformed the Labour Party ... New Labour has passed into history"

"I am worried about the future of the Party" says Oxbridge Tristram Hunt, who just a few weeks ago was lauded by the media establishment as a rising star of Labour but now seems crestfallen and totally irrelevant.

"Prepare for a political earthquake this Saturday. If Jeremy Corbyn wins, it will be off the Richter Scale".

Labour Party members, you know what you have to do. This is history in the making, the rise of the people, the fall of the elites. Bigwigs, charidee bosses, chuggers, cold-calling companies working for charidees, Oxbridge think tank teenagers and metropolitan luvvies are in panic mode, and all because the people are back and are going to give the Labour luvvies the sack!

Roll on Saturday, roll on the people's revolution!

Seriouslyffs · 07/09/2015 21:27

It was a real hatchet job Shock
Never mind, most votes are in. Grin

claig · 07/09/2015 21:32

If Corbyn loses, it means the people will have to suffer more of these metropolitan mealy-mouthed mendacious spin merchants from public schools patronising the people and preaching lectures to them laced with lies. If you don't want that, Labour Party members, you know what you have to do. Think of us, the rest of the people, please spare us from the preaching of the patrronising metropolitan progressives.

Chuka was on Panorama. Chuka, the media's darling, the one they hoped would take over the reins. He was smooth, he was slick, doesn't miss a trick, but he is history, he blew it, cometh the hour, goeth the Blairite. He said something like

"there have been some people who have joined the Party with malign intent, who don't believe in the values of the Labour Party"

but as I listened to the lauded potential leader, I wondered who he was talking about, was it his Blairite metropolitan mates?

claig · 07/09/2015 21:35

Seriouslyffs, you are right, but what do you expect from the Establishment BBC? That is what they are there for. That is what you pay your licence for.

Fingers crossed, Corbyn will make it, make history, change the country and give it back to the people.

Isitmebut · 08/09/2015 10:50

Inshallah.

Not just for the people of the UK no longer having to worry about the return of an incompetent Labour administrations, but for every dodgy Islamist in the world who if Corbyn was in charge - would only ever have to listen to him 'droning' on re how misunderstood they are - rather than being on the other end of missile, fired from one.

scifisam · 08/09/2015 12:53

My GF is a member of the Labour Party (I was rejected for decent reasons - my borough is a shambles so I need to provide extra proof of residence, which would take too long). She doesn't want to vote for Corbyn because she thinks he's unelectable and we've mostly decided not to talk about it.

The other day, though, she asked me who I thought she should vote for apart from Corbyn and I honestly couldn't distinguish between them - they all abstained from the austerity bill, so I couldn't vote for them. No way. That vote was a game-changer.

Strikes me that the non-Corbyn people have a horrible choice. Which transparently-careerist utter bastard shall I vote for?

TheSpectator · 08/09/2015 13:40

Hopefully this will all be over soon, my Tory voting friends joined labour to vote for Coybyn, thus securing a Tory win in 2020, and they are looking forward to rejoining the Conservatives asap Smile

Isitmebut · 08/09/2015 13:47

Hopefully they get a their money back/refunded, there's a world of opportunity out there in a £1 Shop. lol

TheSpectator · 08/09/2015 14:57

Absolutely - 6 pounds to spend in a poundshop - they could go crazy Grin

MrsUltracrepidarian · 08/09/2015 15:17

John Prescott emailed party members today calling for support for Andy Burnham.
Yeah, I got that one - pathetic attempt at a joke 'Dear Comrade'.
Patronising oik.

MrsUltracrepidarian · 08/09/2015 15:18

Corbyn will make it, make history, change the country and give it back to the people.
Whatever you're smoking - just pass it round on the lhs please...

claig · 09/09/2015 09:43

8 more reasons to vote for Corbyn.

"Labour: up to eight in shadow cabinet may refuse to serve with Corbyn"

www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/sep/08/labour-up-to-eight-shadow-cabinet-members-may-refuse-to-serve-with-corbyn

What a result for the people! Eight spinners gorn, no more pagers, no more patronising lectures, no more Oxbridge obfuscation. Roll on the people's revolution!

Shutthatdoor · 09/09/2015 09:48

What a result for the people! Eight spinners gorn, no more pagers, no more patronising lectures, no more Oxbridge obfuscation. Roll on the people's revolution!

Instead you get the likes of Abbott. Hardly a paragon of virtue Wink