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An open letter to everyone who voted Conservative

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blacksunday · 10/05/2015 07:19

To everyone who voted conservative yesterday,

I hope you’re happy. Actually that’s a lie, I really don’t. But before you sit smugly down and give yourself a big pat on the back I’d like to ask you a few questions.

Do you think you haven’t benefitted from the system you are currently trying to break down? As a child, did you ever go to hospital? Have you had an education? Did you ever use a library? Have you ever been on a bus? If so, you have benefited from a system which subsidises facilities with taxes. And now you have, you are willing to take it away from everyone after you. Correct me if I’m wrong but that doesn’t seem very fair. You cannot have socialism and a support system when you need it but then be unwilling to support it for other people.

Now if you are someone who has used the private sector more than public services then I also want to know a few things. If you went to private school, or used private medical care as a child, did you pay for it yourself? Now I’m not asking if your parents paid for it, but you personally. I’m guessing the answer is no. So can you genuinely say you worked hard to get these privileges? No baby earns the right to an education. No child works hard to be born into a particular family who can afford healthcare. So why do you think one person is more deserving than another? If you value working hard and getting on how can you see this as fair? Do you really want to live in a world where children are deemed more worthy of education and healthcare based on what family they come from?

If you are someone who uses a lot of private, who are you? Are you one of the 1% who are currently getting richer? If so, are you ok with the fact that your benefit is someone else’s misery, someone’s poverty, someone’s lack of care? Are you ok with the fact that while you got a pay rise 900,000 people had to go to food banks because they literally didn’t have enough money to feed themselves to survive? Do you really believe that you work harder than these people?

If you aren’t one of these few people benefitting from this system then why have you voted for it? Conservatives use rhetoric of working hard and fairness but this is simply not the reality. If you start life without a lot, to get out of that is hard. “Success” stories are pinned up to show that if you work hard you get somewhere. But they are stories because they are anomalies. To come from a background of little education or money and to get a career you want is not the common way, and you can’t do it without a benefit system. We do not live in a system where if you work hard you get somewhere, the system the conservatives are creating means that if you start off well off you stay that way. Because someone who goes to a private school with tiny class sizes and one on one help does not have to work as hard as someone at an underachieving state school with over worked underpaid staff and huge classes. They just don’t.

Now if you are either one of these types of people you have to question whether you really do believe in what you have voted for. Because in voting conservative you are saying you are happy with the last 5 years. You are endorsing food banks. You are endorsing cutting care for the elderly and the mentally ill. You are endorsing a party where over half the MPs voted against gay marriage. You are saying yes to the NHS being privatised. You are saying you are happy with people being put off education based not on ability or passion but by money. You are saying yes to victimising the poor and disabled and scapegoating people based on where they come from. You are saying that you are ok with the incredible inequality in our country today and you are saying you want more of it.

I do not wish poverty on anyone. It is a cruel and harsh life. But what I do wish for you is that you at least experience it. If not first hand, that you witness the harsh trapping reality that is poverty. The gruelling cycle that doesn’t allow a parent to feed their children. That doesn’t allow for parents to feed themselves. And that you see that this is people who are working. People with jobs. And if they aren’t I hope you see that a life on benefits is not the picnic people make it out to be. Nobody wants to be on benefits. Maybe if you see this you will see what you have voted for.

And if you are ok with all of this then you make me sick. I can’t put it any other way. I am so ashamed to come from a country where this is apparently what the majority think. That the majority of people are too selfish to accept any form of tax rise to support those in our society who need help makes me so incredibly sad. Truly you should be ashamed of yourself that you can so heartlessly put yourself first and not see the consequences. I hope that in the next 5 years you fully appreciate what you did yesterday. I hope you know what you have supported and I hope one day you feel guilty. Because I am scared of what the next 5 years will bring and you should be too.

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claig · 10/05/2015 08:06

Love the word "grizzle". Haven't heard that one before. Brilliant word.

Phantomteadrinker · 10/05/2015 08:06

Tell you what OP, how about next time there's an election we only have one option on a ballot paper just so we all agree with you and there's no chance of the left losing and throwing their toys so dramatically out the pram. The UK population is not stupid or it seems in agreement with Mumsnet. I find the 'leafy leftie' stance so insulting, so many mumsnetters are sooooo pro labour but wouldnt dream of living anywhere but their naice Tory suburb and certainly wouldn't want their kids to mix with the rabble in a special measures school. Double bloody standards.

As a Tory voter can honestly say that had labour had have won I'd have been disappointed but accepted that the people wanted a change and perhaps there would be good and bad with any government. They didn't I am pretty appalled with reaction both on here and elsewhere. You do you and your cause no favours whatsoever with this constant call of 'its not fair' and barrage of fiction.

HighlandHannah · 10/05/2015 08:07

What bookbag said.

I didn't vote Tory.

I live in Scotland and I'm anti-SNP, but I'll get over it.

Get on with your life

Horsemadbird · 10/05/2015 08:07

lightgreengrass - just a point of accuracy - they will offer a free vote on foxhunting because it isn't actually banned! In fact, it's mor epopular than ever. Blair described the Act as his biggest domestic mistake as it is a messy fudge. Fox hunting with horses and hounds remains perfectly legal - the method of kill is what has changed. You now have to shoot or use a bird of prey. Which is mor etraumatice, takes longer and can miss! Hounds are remarkably effective and quick.

Sorry - a bit O/T but worth mentioning Smile.

YorkieButtonsizeMen · 10/05/2015 08:07

36% isn't a majority of the population though is it?

Janethegirl · 10/05/2015 08:09

This is getting so boring.

Accept that the Conservatives are in power for the next 5 years.

As other pps have posted, go read the many other threads in the same vein for the answers to your question.

SoupDragon · 10/05/2015 08:09

36% isn't a majority of the population though is it?

And whose fault is that? The people who couldn't be arsed to vote or who spoiled their papers.

They got all the seats they needed.

Horsemadbird · 10/05/2015 08:10

phantom - perfect post!

You are so right - on here and elsewhere I have read moan after moan about how sad people are that the tories won again in their affluent, clean, crime free, great schools, high house priced safe seat. Grin Why not move to a solidly , gritty Labour area then?

Madamecastafiore · 10/05/2015 08:10

Can't be arsed to read it. Still got a hangover from all the champers.

SoupDragon · 10/05/2015 08:11

No Soup, more people either voted Conservative or didn't mind who came into power, than voted Labour.

Deal with it wink

Why do I need to be told to deal with it? Please give me an example of where I am not dealing with it.

Guirado · 10/05/2015 08:12

I'm going to roast a swan for lunch and make the gravy with tears from the poor. Would you like to come Madame Castafiore, plenty more champagne in the cellar.

Cherriesandapples · 10/05/2015 08:12

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HoneyDragon · 10/05/2015 08:13

EVERYONES entitled to their opinion and to start threads and make comments.

Like Soupy, I'm finding certain contributors somewhat pathetic and tedious.

But I'm now only prepared to listen to ones by active participants on Mumsnet. People really interested in social change. The people who have supported other users, laughed with other users and contributed toward the site, and fellow users even in the smallest possible ways.

Those ops who are here to post in a couple of forums to just exclusively do rhetoric aren't inspiring they are irritating.

Regardless off their political affiliation, they are irelavant to me.

Guirado · 10/05/2015 08:14

I don't remember the Conservatives rioting or whingeing like this when we had years of Labour haemorrhaging guns and money everywhere. Therefore I shall conclude that Conservative voters have better manners.

TheoreticalOrder · 10/05/2015 08:15

Some really intelligent comments on your linked thread. Makes more informed reading than this one.

FirstOfficerDouglasRichardson · 10/05/2015 08:16

Again?

Cherriesandapples · 10/05/2015 08:16

Or let us not forget the billions spent fighting an illegal war... If you want to know where the money went, ask how much Labour spent on that.

Horsemadbird · 10/05/2015 08:17

Madame - you do know that champers was squeezed from the blood of babies and the sick?

Anyone else see teh photos of the multi millionaire and private school using Charlotte Church protesting last night Grin

And people like her are another reason so many loathe the left - her, luvvies like Emma Thompson, Martin freeman, Russell Brand- all filthy, stinking rich, using private schools and living in naice leafy parts of London in moneyed luxury. All hypocrites.

IsabellaofFrance · 10/05/2015 08:17

*36% isn't a majority of the population though is it?

And whose fault is that? The people who couldn't be arsed to vote or who spoiled their papers.

They got all the seats they needed.*

^ This, a million times over. Every time I see a thread which states that the conservatives didn't win a majority, I want to say this.

Also, how on earth do you know that some of those people who didn't vote. wouldn't have votes Tory?

I didn't vote Conservative either . I am sad about the result, but its time to channel that disappointment into something constructive (and by constructive, I don't mean vandalism or anti-social behaviour).

fiveacres · 10/05/2015 08:17

I think baking summed my stance and that of the country perfectly on the first page. Well put.

justnippingin · 10/05/2015 08:21

Not another [hmmm]

blacksunday · 10/05/2015 08:21

I cannot wait for five years time when all the doom mongers, the chest beaters and the hysterics are proved wrong - just like they were over the Left's predictions of high unemployment and a triple dip recession.

Actually, the predictions of what would happen implementing austerity were borne out: this is the longest recovery from a recession we've experienced in 100 years.

The UKs unemployment figure is misleading. You're only counted as unemployed if you're claiming benefits, and the Tories have done their best to kick people off benefits.

The remainder of the jobs are shitty, low-paid, insecure jobs, or forced labour (Workfare), which also counts as being 'employed'.

None of you saw this defeat coming because you were so arrogant and dismissive . The quiet people of this country have spoken and they have absolutely and powerfully rejected the left.

They haven't, really. The SNP is 'far-left' by UK standards and made incredible gains. And the anti-Tory vote is higher than the Tory vote.

But congratulations on getting your party in to power, in any case. You don't represent the majority of the country.

blah blah blah something about Labour.

I'm not a Labour supporter, and never have and never would vote Labour in my life. I just don't want 5 more years of Thatcherism.

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justnippingin · 10/05/2015 08:21
Hmm Grin
TheOnlyOliviaMumsnet · 10/05/2015 08:22

Ahem

Guirado · 10/05/2015 08:22

I would love to audit the accounts of Charlotte Church, Russell Brand, Martin Freeman and all the wealthy lefties who don't have to fight for a primary school place, use the NHS or generally mix with the proletariat. I expect I'd find a lot of perfectly legal tax avoidance. We know we'd find a bankruptcy by Mrs Freeman because she didn't want to pay her 120k tax bill.