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Gove as the Justice Secretary

34 replies

sunnydayinmay · 09/05/2015 22:12

Remind me what the Justice Secretary does?

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reynoldsnumber · 09/05/2015 22:13

Oh dear. This is not good news.

Sentencing.
Prisons.
Police.
Courts service
Legal aid (though it's agency)

Gove will be a huge liability.

WidowWadman · 09/05/2015 22:15

Well, to be fair, he won't be able to do a worse job than Grayling.

OhYouBadBadKitten · 09/05/2015 22:16

oh no :(
why couldnt they make him chief tea maker or something else harmless.

sunnydayinmay · 09/05/2015 22:17

Quick google - three possible policies are:

  1. eu referendum
  2. greater powers to "snoop"
  3. Pulling out of Human Rights Act

All Ministry of Justice stuff? Need a hard hitter in charge?

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mamababa · 09/05/2015 22:18

It's not the Police - they are under the Home Secretary.

Timeforabiscuit · 09/05/2015 22:23

Anyone hearing about the London riots? Not on BBC news but is being reported by the mirror....

AuntieStella · 09/05/2015 22:30

Demos (inc police injuries and arrests) are on BBC News 24 ticker (BBC 1 news only just starting, other channels don't have news on Saturdays). The defacing of the war memorial isn't mentioned, but the pix are on the online sites of print media.

I'm surprised they didn't leave Gove as Whip, because of what is needed when there is you job a slender majority.

SwedishEdith · 09/05/2015 22:30

He's a Eurosceptic. I don't think this is good news. Actually, wherever he was wouldn't be good news

Timeforabiscuit · 09/05/2015 22:31

At least it isn't health #everycloud

Damnautocorrect · 09/05/2015 22:36

How the fuck has he still got a job?! What does he know about Cameron?!!

Ilikesweetpeas · 09/05/2015 22:38

So relieved that he's not education again but worried about what he's going to do to another sector...

sassytheFIRST · 09/05/2015 22:38

Wife is a daily mail columnist. Maybe Cameron needs to keep them sweet?

Damnautocorrect · 09/05/2015 22:44

I don't understand how they flit from sector to sector, surely you need some sort of expertise in the field to make decisions on something?

headlesslambrini · 09/05/2015 22:46

He will be in charge of replacing the Human Rights Act. Time to emigrate?

headlesslambrini · 09/05/2015 22:56

Summary of HRAct:
Right to life
Freedom from torture and inhuman or degrading treatment
Right to liberty and security
Freedom from slavery and forced labour
Right to a fair trial
No punishment without law
Respect for your private and family life, home and correspondence
Freedom of thought, belief and religion
Freedom of expression
Freedom of assembly and association
Right to marry and start a family
Protection from discrimination in respect of these rights and freedoms
Right to peaceful enjoyment of your property
Right to education
Right to participate in free elections

Im beginning to think that the Education dept was just a practice run on what damage he is really capable of.

UnsolvedMystery · 09/05/2015 23:12

I despair
The man is a liability

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wejammin · 10/05/2015 00:07

As a legal aid lawyer I am in total despair. He's a dangerous radical.

starwarslegoboy · 10/05/2015 17:35

Repeal of HRA was in their manifesto.

FennyBridges · 10/05/2015 17:45

I thought they were simply coming out of the European Convention for HR so that illegal migrants and criminal foreign nationals couldn't appeal on so many of them to stay in the UK. I thought the regular person would be largely unaffected.

Am I wrong?

FennyBridges · 10/05/2015 17:46

Oh I would like to say that I think Gove is the devil's own.

wejammin · 10/05/2015 19:11

It depends what the alternative is, they want to change the HRA for a British bill of rights but it's not clear what rights this will enshrine.

Pulling out of ECHR would mean nobody bring able to bring a case against the uk govt for discrimination, the number of decisions that benefit poorly represented minorities far outweighs the perceived negative of being unable to deport suspects for trial where they may be tortured.

Maternity policy in the uk for example has been improved by ECHR precedents.

weeburrower1 · 10/05/2015 19:16

He said in 1998 that hanging should never have been abolished. Between that and the scrapping of the HRA, it's kinda worrying.

WidowWadman · 10/05/2015 21:13

fenny - under a government which seeks to deport first so that deported immigrants would only be allowed to appeal after they've been removed, it's pretty likely that not only irregular immigrants will be hit by the removal of human rights. And anyhow, the argument that it's only foreigners who need to worry so it's alright, is pretty yucky in my view.

We've already got a state which imprisons migrants for as long as it wants to, sometimes years, under the euphemism of "administrative detention".

fortyfide · 14/05/2015 12:42

Michael Gove could be a throwback to another age. He will certainly cause controversy