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Help - tempted to vote Tory, against my long held values! Convince me otherwise!

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Flingmoo · 18/03/2015 16:15

Right, excuse my poor understanding of politics, I'm just after some friendly advice.

I'm from a working class family who would rather die than vote Tory. I've done well in life and now have a much better career than my parents ever had, but still I've always been a bit of a Guardian reading lefty who also hated the Tories. I sort of used to be a Lib Dem, but since the big tuition fees betrayal I've been flitting between Greens and Labour.

However I am getting this horrible niggling feeling that perhaps the Tories have done a half decent job... Unemployment down, taxes down, hopefully reducing inheritance tax, "bedroom tax", extended help to buy, all good stuff IMHO.

But theres a lot of stuff I don't agree with:

  • Not impressed at the way the NHS is going
  • Not happy about sale of Royal Mail
  • Corporate tax dodgers not dealt with
  • David Cameron is a slimy twat
Er, thought there was more but can't think of any other points.

Anyway, please convince me to vote for a different party. I'm rather fond of the Greens but isnt it a wasted vote? Miliband seems a bit limp. Lib Dems not to be trusted anymore after Cleggs big fat porky pies last time. UKIP is a massive no no for me and I'd happily punch Farage in the face if I were allowed to... So who do I vote for?

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claig · 29/04/2015 10:23

"SNP justice shambles ‘alarm for Scots democracy’

ATTEMPTS to force through legislation scrapping a centuries-old legal safeguard should “ring alarm bells” about democracy in Scotland, a former solicitor general has warned."

www.scotsman.com/news/politics/top-stories/snp-justice-shambles-alarm-for-scots-democracy-1-3751806

claig · 29/04/2015 10:25

But did the Conservatives vote against the bill that contained the 'named person' stuff?

masueuk · 29/04/2015 10:28

If you watch the whole piece, what Ms Sturgeon says about protecting vulnerable children misses the point totally, ALL CHILDREN not just vulnerable ones will have a STATE GUARDIAN. She didnt answer how this would be funded either. Their tactic is to go "Puir wee bairnies eatin jeelie pieces fae the foodbank" then gloss over the intrusion into every single family in Scotland. No one thinks vulnerable children should be left behind, but rounding them all up for state run programmes just to be sure they are conforming to state ideals....... dont have to go too far back in history to see the other national socialists who thought similarly. WAKE UP PEOPLE PLEASE

masueuk · 29/04/2015 10:28

Yes

claig · 29/04/2015 10:32

Progressives always use the fact that they say they care about some people to force their policies on everyone.

It is like the Conservative modernising politically correct progressives in government. To stop binge drinking among a small minority of the public, they say that minimum alcohol pricing should be forced on all of the people. That is why I ask how real is the opposition from the progressive Conservatives. UKIP aren't politically correct and progressive, they are against all of these type of socialist policies.

claig · 29/04/2015 10:39

'The Children and Young People (Scotland) Bill was passed with 103 MSPs voting for it and with 15 abstentions.'

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-26208628

Incredible stuff, but not if you look at our political class. Thank God for UKIP. They will eventually defeat our political class, but it will take some time yet.

masueuk · 29/04/2015 12:40

If you can, go and sign the petition no2np.org/

I have a degree and a post graduate qualification but even I found the twelve page form (which must be used if you wish to comment on this scandalous waste of money and huge state interference in every family in Scotland) to be one of the worst ever. Deliberate? How could I even think it is deliberately complicated. Deliberate that the closing day is within a week of the general election which means no one has noticed, even a political journalist I spoke to at a hustings last night? Noooo, thats traitor talk, I'm a tartan Tory (I'm not a Conservative) I'm gullible and a coffin dodger who should not be here (can trace my family history back to the elder brother of Alexander Selkirk the real Robinson Crusoe and beyond)

robin4 · 29/04/2015 21:10

Vote Labour. policies are what will affect lives, policies like: end of exploitative 0 hour contracts by giving more rights to employees who are on them, investeing in NHS-including 20,000 more nurses,getting rid of the bedroom tax etc,
Tories have a different priority-they have trebled student debt while giving millionaires a tax cut,NHS in crisis.

fortyfide · 30/04/2015 11:28

Yes, robin4 people should study policies rather than be obsessed with personalities.

klunk768 · 05/05/2015 19:05

For all you parents who vote tory,if they get back in and when they cut child benefits etc,then I shall laugh at you.

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