Do you think Labour DESERVES to get a majority in 2015?

[Isitmebut]

Bearing in mind Labour’s record in power, the salient features shown below; having inherited the best decade in 100-years to make important social changes, make provisions for pensioners, build enough homes and a sustainable economic model – what use is ‘a high tax and spend’ party, during a fragile global recovery and an approx £1,500,000,000,000 (£1.5 trillion) of Nation Debt????

Facts; Labour were the most spun media controlled and corrupt administration in living memory with ‘Blairs Labour cash for Lordships’ investigated by the police, Brown’s lowering of Capital Gains Tax to as low as 10% to attract party money from the City and MP expenses totally out of hand on THEIR watch and Labour’s Parliament Speaker Michael Martin running the show, now a peer for his ‘services’ to MP’s expenses.

Pro EU without trusting the people to vote… pro open door immigration from 2004 for personal gain AND without increasing home building to make room …with 580,000 under 25-year olds here already unemployed... pro flat lining State Education rather than raise standards…pro needless laws/police State with more legislation passed in their 13-years than the previous 100-years… pro Human Rights Act in 1998 causing so many ‘rights’ for criminals/terrorists problems.

Pro MRSA/C.Diff killer germ infested NHS hospitals hiring more managers than nurses.. pro saddling hospitals and schools with 25-year plus Private Finance Initiative debts….pro 24-hour drinking, gambling and declassifying drugs….pro expensive quangos costing over £70 bil a year to run.. pro expensive to run local government (with non jobs) leading to Council Tax hikes up 110% on their watch..

Pro raiding private personal pensions from 1998, including private sector companies to near final salary extinction...pro screwing state pensioners with derisory annual State pension e.g. 75p in 2000….pro raising the lower band tax rate to screw the poor in 2007…pro sale of 40% of UK gold reserves under $300 an ounce versus $1.900 high…..pro relaxation of banking regulation to dangerous levels pre financial crash..…pro sending 1 million of our manufacturing jobs elsewhere by 2005 BEFORE the crash

Pro lying to go to war and without equipping soldiers with basic kit and helicopters... ….pro nuclear energy to stop lights going off in 2015, but didn’t get around to building any.…pro defence/Trident, who knows, let someone else get around to it….and leaving us less domestic food production secure than in 1997.

With a balanced budget by 2002 having adopted 1997 Tory spending plans, pro unbalanced economy = ANNUAL budget deficit of £157 bil a year in 2010 and national debt of £1.5 trillion by 2015 needing unpopular austerity, or go the way of bankrupt Greece…….pro equality but left power in 2010 with more inequality than in 1997.

And finally as mentioned in their 2010 manifesto, were planning MORE fat government, MORE national debt, LESS inefficiency cuts and INCREASED taxes to all to pay for their incompetence (that would kill any economic growth), they cynically never got around to DETAILING in any detail to fool their voters – and it clearly has.

Wafflyversatile ….. Firstly, as Labour were either totally clueless how to fix their own mess, or electoral cowards not providing all the tax rises in their manifesto for the ‘more of the same’ path they wished to follow, they clearly limited THEIR electoral damage fooling their oblivious faithful.

Secondly re 'the Tories did not win', the size of the Conservative bounce in 2010 from 2005 was already thought unlikely versus previous elections, and you are clearly not reading the parliamentary seats versus votes stats I gave on ACTUAL election results in 2005 and 2010.

I also want to throw in some Ukip stats as well.

The electoral boundaries AS IS, means a Labour Party with 35% of the vote has over a 60 seat parliamentary MAJORITY (as in 2005), yet a Conservative Party with 36% of the vote is a MINORITY government with 20-seats short – so we have an undemocratic situation where a Labour Party with less votes than the Conservatives insists we stay in Europe.

”General Election 2010: Ukip challenge 'cost Tories a Commons majority”

“The UK Independence Party's small but significant showing at the polls may have cost David Cameron a majority in the Commons, voting figures suggest.”

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/ukip/7693877/General-Election-2010-Ukip-challenge-cost-Tories-a-Commons-majority.html

“Analysis of results shows that in at least 21 key marginal seats, Ukip’s share of the vote proved enough to allow Labour or the Lib Dems to see off strong Tory challenges.”

In ‘do I think the Tories deserve another win’ Conclusion; based on the very good economic and social conditions passed on to Labour in 1997, nothing like the train crash handed to the Tories in 1979 - AND the train crash Labour passed back in 2010 – todate, based on the turnaround and Labour still seem clueless what to do in order to boost the economy/jobs rather than lose them, YES.

You live in a very different world from mine.

The Tories have made this country a much shitter place to live. they did last time and they are doing this time. Labour are also shit. There is barely a rizla paper to choose between them. Our debt was not the train crash you insist on and the Tories were never our saviours. They are only in it for them and their rich mates, a tiny % of the population.

Are you paid by the Tories btw?

I don't know if Labour DESERVES to win the next election (probably not) but I for one would be cheering them into No10 if it meant being rid of this self serving bunch of fucking hypocrites we have in power at the moment. That is all really.

I hate the current lot with such a passion that almost any party slightly left of centre would do me at the moment, anyone but these right wing, poor hating, propaganda spinning arseholes who appear to have done nothing but serve their rich cronies while shitting in the most vulnerable in society from a great height.

Sadly I think people are so thick they will elect this bunch of tossers yet again.

Isitme

Why do you assume that I'm a labour voter? I'm not. I just don't like it when people talk bollocks.

Whilst I don't think much of the current government. The thought of Miliband being PM and Balls being chancellor literally frightens me

wafflyversatile .... re "the Tories have made this a much shittier place", clearly that is your opinion and anyone elses who was not around in 1979 when they came to power, or in denial of the Labour facts in my opening post, what do YOU disagree with and we can debate it?

And why because I have been around nearly 60-years, LIVED through the 1970's, LIVED through the 2000's (and saw it all coming), that I am paid by the Conservative, when I look at FACTS/RECORD of the main partys in government, rather than listening or following the propaganda of a Labour Party that fails who they say they represent, every time.

• Look at my OP list, and TELL ME those policies helped 'the people' of THIS country.

• Look at the Labour Party and their policies before 2010 and their manifesto after - how can anyone judge the Coalition inheriting Labour's £157 bil deficit mess and policies, when Labour in government were to cowardly to address the problems themselves.

• Labour pathetically opposed every cut, yet I have links from them admitting, they would cut MORE from Welfare if you want to see them.

How can anyone trust their record that INCREASED inequality over 13-years, found jobs for 2.5 million new citizens whilst leaving 921,000 unemployed 16-24 year olds unemployed by 2010, forgot to build homes etc etc etc and inability to know NOW, what they have done wrong?

Look at the facts/records over ideology and you'll get a clearer picture.

lecherrs .. so apart from the insults, any comment to my answering a regular Labour mis information comment - or was that the best reply you had?