Do you think Labour DESERVES to get a majority in 2015?

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Bearing in mind Labour’s record in power, the salient features shown below; having inherited the best decade in 100-years to make important social changes, make provisions for pensioners, build enough homes and a sustainable economic model – what use is ‘a high tax and spend’ party, during a fragile global recovery and an approx £1,500,000,000,000 (£1.5 trillion) of Nation Debt????

Facts; Labour were the most spun media controlled and corrupt administration in living memory with ‘Blairs Labour cash for Lordships’ investigated by the police, Brown’s lowering of Capital Gains Tax to as low as 10% to attract party money from the City and MP expenses totally out of hand on THEIR watch and Labour’s Parliament Speaker Michael Martin running the show, now a peer for his ‘services’ to MP’s expenses.

Pro EU without trusting the people to vote… pro open door immigration from 2004 for personal gain AND without increasing home building to make room …with 580,000 under 25-year olds here already unemployed... pro flat lining State Education rather than raise standards…pro needless laws/police State with more legislation passed in their 13-years than the previous 100-years… pro Human Rights Act in 1998 causing so many ‘rights’ for criminals/terrorists problems.

Pro MRSA/C.Diff killer germ infested NHS hospitals hiring more managers than nurses.. pro saddling hospitals and schools with 25-year plus Private Finance Initiative debts….pro 24-hour drinking, gambling and declassifying drugs….pro expensive quangos costing over £70 bil a year to run.. pro expensive to run local government (with non jobs) leading to Council Tax hikes up 110% on their watch..

Pro raiding private personal pensions from 1998, including private sector companies to near final salary extinction...pro screwing state pensioners with derisory annual State pension e.g. 75p in 2000….pro raising the lower band tax rate to screw the poor in 2007…pro sale of 40% of UK gold reserves under $300 an ounce versus $1.900 high…..pro relaxation of banking regulation to dangerous levels pre financial crash..…pro sending 1 million of our manufacturing jobs elsewhere by 2005 BEFORE the crash

Pro lying to go to war and without equipping soldiers with basic kit and helicopters... ….pro nuclear energy to stop lights going off in 2015, but didn’t get around to building any.…pro defence/Trident, who knows, let someone else get around to it….and leaving us less domestic food production secure than in 1997.

With a balanced budget by 2002 having adopted 1997 Tory spending plans, pro unbalanced economy = ANNUAL budget deficit of £157 bil a year in 2010 and national debt of £1.5 trillion by 2015 needing unpopular austerity, or go the way of bankrupt Greece…….pro equality but left power in 2010 with more inequality than in 1997.

And finally as mentioned in their 2010 manifesto, were planning MORE fat government, MORE national debt, LESS inefficiency cuts and INCREASED taxes to all to pay for their incompetence (that would kill any economic growth), they cynically never got around to DETAILING in any detail to fool their voters – and it clearly has.

In 1997 Labour inherited few problems, and got the UK dancing to “Things Can Only Get Better” and pre serious immigration in 2004, in a backdrop of low GLOBAL inflation and falling interest rates, with an economy fuelled by Government and Consumer spending/debt – for most voters things did get better, as few realised the economic and social structural problems that were building up, to come apart at the first recession.

Any fool of a political party can spend money we have not got and forget to make serious social policies, as spending their time making new laws, what was it over 13- years, just under 4,300 - said to be more than all the previous administrations combined over a century.

But here we are, Labour had what ex BoE Governor Merv ‘The Swerve’ King called “the nice decade’ to make bold decisions on unemployment, housing and other social issues to make a real difference to everyone’s lives BUT THEY NOT ONLY BLEW IT, their policies/debts made it harder for the Coalition to not only reverse the decline, but put us back on course to where we should be going.

Most people do not realise how long it takes to turn an economy around e.g. any fall or rise in our Base Rate can take over 18-months to fully work through the economy, so IMO having done all the damage, Labour does not deserve to get back in, especially touting promises they can’t keep, or seriously affect areas we need to attract private sector investment into i.e. jobs, energy, new homes and more to rent – not scare it off.

No.

They are all so uninspiring and just fecking useless. I can't stand any of them. It's a sad day in politics if Farage is speaking for the people.

It'll be a cold day in hell when Farrago speaks for me.

Depresses the hell out of me that some people will vote for a political party WHATEVER they do..........I thought only Religion relied on blind faith.

No, they do not deserve it but the electoral system's in-built Labour advantage (i.e. constituency sizes and number of votes needed per MP etc.) will make it likely that they will win, alas.

Of course they don't.

They will get my vote. Despite having an erroneous Miliband!

TrueGent ……. I agree Labour will form the next administration one way or another, as needing only 35% of the popular vote to win a decent majority, thereby needing the Conservatives to be around 8% AHEAD in the Polls for even a small majority – what with their dodgy Postal Vote manipulation a judge said would shame a banana republic – it apparently does not end there.

Now they want to ‘indoctrinate’ young minds via the mainly left wing teaching establishment, like any North Korean dictator worth his salt, to gain an even bigger electoral audience for their populist (but unworkable) mantras.

“Labour to promise electoral registration drive in schools”
www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/labour-to-promise-electoral-registration-drive-in-schools-9496553.html

“A compulsory electoral registration drive would be launched in schools by an incoming Labour government in an effort to raise the “woefully low” voting rates among young adults, the i paper has learnt.”

“Hundreds of thousands of teenagers would be enrolled each year as part of a Labour constitutional reform package which includes lowering the voting age from 18 to 16.”

“The initiative, which would be an early priority for an administration headed by Ed Miliband, will be announced on Friday by Sadiq Khan, the shadow Justice Secretary.”

“Under the plan, schools and colleges would be legally compelled to supply details of 16 and 17 year old students to electoral registration officers.”

Dodgy electoral boundaries/results, Labour State controls on the private sector, national grid power outages, the Labour Youth Movement and no doubt a Oldish Labour government revisiting of the 90-Day lock up, identity cards, and heaven knows what else – it’s coming via a ballot box near you, god help us.

Hail the next 2015 ‘great leader’ Miliband Young-Un (as David Miliband would have been the Old-Un). lol

Hopefully in Miliband Young-Un's 2020 administration, he will put as much effort in coming up with workable economic policies, as he is currently spending trying to keep Labour's failed sorry ar$e in perpetual power.

I agree Labour will form the next administration one way or another, as needing only 35% of the popular vote to win a decent majority, thereby needing the Conservatives to be around 8% AHEAD in the Polls for even a small majority

It was the Tory psychopathic scum who campaigned a dirty-tricks campaign against PR. They're hardly a shining example of 'democracy'.

The Tories will never be in power again because there aren't enough nasty old white men with Victorian values left. They're all dying off.

No, Labour don't deserve to win the next election. Thy are at best a well-meaning middle-class think tank, and at worst a bunch of dangerously incompetent idiots.

ttosca .... *the voters that either experienced or read about Old Labour kept them out of power from 1979 to 1997 and although THIS TIME there was no obvious New Labour economic/social 'train crash' in 2010 - as Labour were political cowards in delaying action addressing their own problems - a Miliband going back to Old Labour class politics, should finish us off again by 2020.

The pro EU and socialist Miliband and similar Lib Dems, with the current electoral boundary advantage Labour has, could indeed keep the pro EU referendum and business Conservatives out of office for many years - yet Miliband is still more worried about being in power, than coming up with anything to BUILD the UK a better future, rather than regulate it - rearranging cabins on the good ship UK (Labour) Titanic.

Nothing new there then.

"Blair's 'frenzied law making' : a new offence for every day spent in office"

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/blairs-frenzied-law-making--a-new-offence-for-every-day-spent-in-office-412072.html

Hopefully not. They're lower than a steaming pile of dog shit. Scum of the earth.

Bring back David Milliband. He was an excellent foreign secretary and had a the political experience we need now. What a muck up the trade unions made selecting Ed. Pleasant enough fellow and intelligent but like Cameron so limited in real political experience.

'Deserve to get in' is the wrong way of looking at it. It's not meant to be a reward. What matters is what we think they will do this time if they get in.

On that basis I have to say they shouldn't get in and I agree that they are dangerously incompetent idiots.

In fact the only thing that fills me with more dread than Labour running the country is the Tories running it.

This might be an interesting thread but all the underlining and upper case is just doing my fruit in.

The coalition definitely don't deserve another term.

Also, are you typing it in Word OP? It is impossible to read your posts on the app.

Oh and the criticism about immigration is a red herring. If we stay in the EU then we have to allow immigration. The Tories have said they might have a referendum on that, but do we really think that will go through with it? I suspect they are just using that to a) get elected and b) to try and bluff their way into a little more influence with the EU.

A little more influence is not enough to solve our problems. We need to leave the EU AND elect a competent government that cares about the welfare of the people. I don't see any that meet both requirements.

I think Labour deserves to be the Largest party after the election.

It doesn't bare thinking about what a state this country would be in if Labour had stayed in power in 2010. I wouldn't leave Ed Milliband in charge of a paper bag.

LABOUR deserve to be the largest party. Even if they did pick the unpopular bruvver. The election is wide open anything could happen. Check the bookies odds they know a thing or 2.

As to the COALTION "working" well it works well for the people at the top.
Very unfairly for people at the bottom.....

This is the age of Tory Fashion. Ms Mcvey is semi nude in thursdays Express....She does photograph well

But are there votes in well dressed women ministers. ? I found Widdecombe easier to tolerate EACH TO HIS/HER OWN

On the questio of popularity. Thatch won when she was unpopular. So did Major once. I see Cleggy has ditched his support for bedroom tax.

I resent a whole year of politician chasing headlines pre election. The media should largely ignore them untill 2015. But they wont.

Jon Snow really trashed Tory Chairman and Labour MP on Ch 4 news (wed) Check if its on Youtube.

The Tories sure as hell don't deserve it. Whatever Labour have done in the past, they're the only chance of getting the current atrocious all in it for themselves lot out.

The Tories deserve it much more than the Labour filth. What we need is a Tory/UKIP coalition to put Labour and the scum who vote for them back in their place!