Justice for Men and Boys - Isn't this exactly why we need feminism

[wickeddevil]

Heard Justice for Men and Boys Founder Mike Buccanan on Womens Hour earlier today complaining that men pay 72% of all income tax.
Well isn't that because they have more income?

And instead of complaining about the feminist agenda doesn't it demonstrate why we need it?

"Women have been fighting to be in the front line."

How many women would actually be up for that do you think? Would you? I wouldn't. I don't like fighting.

I wonder if your Sons would find my posts laughable

I would think most men and women would find your posts laughable.

Except Mike. Mike would like you.

we live in a patriarchy and unfortunately most people don't see it. For me the great thing about mras is they draw attention to it in a way feminism never will. Because as soon as a man says it's not fair it totally puts it all in to perspective. Like when white people complain about black history month or a 2 year throws a tantrum. It's just so ridiculous.

How many women would actually be up for that do you think? Would you? I wouldn't. I don't like fighting.

Whaaaat? at the hypocrisy. So you're criticising women for not doing something that you don't want to do?

YY Satsuki. MRAs sound like spoilt children stamping their feet because they can't have all the sweeties.

Maybe let's not give this one the attention he craves?

You're probs right, running.

to the MRAs.

you're both right of course, I'll just give one last to see if that soothes his tantrum.

Right, who's coming to the pub? My round.

bit far for me doctine but have a cider with salt and vinegar chips for me

Mine's a doctrine

would be lovely, thank you.

I don't find Vadark's posts laughable, I agree with him. For feminists to say they represent women is laughable. They don't represent any women I know.

"I would think most men and women would find your posts laughable."

I can't see why fighting for equality is laughable. From what you just said, Feminism must be laughable.

do you? even the bit where he says that the sexual assault statistics are lies? please let me know so I can avoid you as a troll in the future

This thread certainly shows why we need feminism...

"we live in a patriarchy"

Are the members of this so-called patriarchy contributing to society in any way. What have they done? What do they do? What exactly is a patriarchy? Is it a name for those who have power and control? Tell me what power and control you don't have in today's society. Tell me why you'd prefer to be a member of the patriarchy. Tell me what you wouldn't like.

"For me the great thing about mras is they draw attention to it in a way feminism never will"

I suppose they have alot to draw attention to.

"Because as soon as a man says it's not fair it totally puts it all in to perspective"

Who does the media listen to most, MRAs or feminists? Who gets more media attention regarding rights?

www.thefreedictionary.com/patriarchy

"Whaaaat? at the hypocrisy. So you're criticising women for not doing something that you don't want to do?"

No hypocrisy. I don't think anyone should fight and be killed - men or women. It's stupid. We should all be friends. The problem is that humanity has bred selfishness and people are greedy and selfish. Also, humans tend to group themselves and unfortunately males and females also segregate themselves, just as we are doing right here on this forum.

The problem is that due to greed and consequential competition, the result is often war and bloodshed. If only women existed in the world i can guarantee you that there would still be wars and bloodshed. But while you have men around, conveniently for you, they will do the work.

Who do you think is more selfish?

I agree that war is stupid and that too many lives have been lost - mainly men. I don't think a women only world would be free of conflict.

But for the most part it's powerful men starting wars to defend their own interests - how is it women's fault that men are fighting (and dying) in wars started by men?

"YY Satsuki. MRAs sound like spoilt children stamping their feet because they can't have all the sweeties."

Sweeties are on a slightly different level to Health spend, custodial rights, suicide, homelessness, positive discrimination in the workplace, life expectancy, boys failing in education, divorce rights settlements, the justice system, anonymity in false rape accusations, ati-male legislation etc. etc.

Shaming tactics again. yawn. stretch. yawn.

"Maybe let's not give this one the attention he craves?"

I don't crave attention. Just fairness. A bit like you, probably.

SatsukiKusukabe - avoid me as a troll if you like, if by troll you mean not agreeing with your propaganda.

"What a whiner. Whine whine whine whine whine .... Ad infinitum.
Vadark, i mean."

Insults. keep 'em coming. Only makes you look bad.