France and Greece Election results!

[LadyWithEDS]

So, what do you think it means for Europe?

New Labour policy was never to close public schools.

'He's lucky if there is anyone left in the chamber when he speaks.'

Is that because some of them don't like hearing the truth?

'New Labour policy was never to close public schools.'

No, but what is wrong with the state schools that other people go to. Why do some Labour MPs choose private over state?

Apparently there has been a book written about hypocrisy by Peter Schweizer called 'Do As I Say (Not As I Do): Profiles in Liberal Hypocrisy'.

It sounds like a cracker, but there is possibly nothing in it that we don't already know.

www.usatoday.com/news/opinion/editorials/2006-08-09-gore-green_x.htm

claig - that's not true. No reason he couldn't campaign within Britain and be an MP.

Oh, except that no-one serious would ever vote for him. There's only so many people with that much of a sense of humour.

Because we live in a free society and can choose to spend our money how we like to and if that means pubic schools then that's a persons personal choice.

'claig - that's not true. No reason he couldn't campaign within Britain and be an MP.'

But he says that the UK parliament doesn't have much power and that most laws are made by Brussels.

He even says that when teh people vote no to EU treaties, that the EU tells them to vote again until they get it right.

I don't know if it's true, but he knows a lot more about it than I do.

Well if you believe in faraaaage you'll believe any conspiracy theory won't you :)

I don't believe in catastrophic climate change.

Sorry, claig, that's a pants argument. If he wanted to change our approach to Europe he ought to be campaigning in Britin for the 'no' vote and a referendum. It is up to Britain to demand that not Europe - Europe the turkey will never vote for its own Christmas, will it?

But then Farage wouldn't be making a packet, would he? Tosser.

Yes, but his party campaigns here. So, just as it stands in national elections and mayoral elections, it also stands in European elections just like the Greens, Labour and Tories do. It is engaged in politics and stands for elections to all legislative bodies and councils.

UKIP is the BNP just with zimmer frames and tweed jackets in southern market towns.

'But then Farage wouldn't be making a packet, would he?'

I don;'t think he is making any morre than the MEPs of other parties. He is entitled to the same salary and expenses as them. I don't know, but unlike some of them, he probably also campaigns for a reduction in expenses and salaries given to MEPs.

I don't think that UKIP has the same policies as the BNP on immigration, repatriation or economics.

I think UKIP is a libertarian type party that believes in free markets, whereas the BNP has some more socialist economic policies. UKIP is for small state, BNP is for big state.

'probably'. I doubt it somehow.

Think you're being a bit hopeful on that one, claig.

I want to see faraaaaaaggeee birth certificate I reckon he is French really.

The Guardian published something about Farage's expenses

www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2009/may/24/mps-expenses-ukip-nigel-farage

and Farage answered questions on it on the radio

back to topic, I am still waiting for the sky to fall in which everyone on page 1 of this thread assured would happen.

All I can see is Europe adjusting to the concept of growth rather than austerity - no bad thing as I know which I'd rather live under - and stock markets getting a little hot under the collar as they do fairly often.

The Queen is from German stock. Churchill and many of our aristocrats are from Norman ancestry. Portillo is Spanish. Nothing wrong with Farage having French ancestry, if he has.

Agree, breadandbutterfly. Good luck to Hollande and the Greeks. We need growth, so if they can achieve it and soften the austerity then that will be good for the people of Europe, but not as good for the bankers.

As Farage pointed out, Greece's economy is contracting at 7% per annum and it can't pay the bankers bank, which is why it needs EU money. Only if their economy grows will they have any chance of paying the bankers, so if the bankers really want their money, then they should hope that Greece can grow, and the austerity is currently failing to provide that growth.

Agree, claig. :)

its not the bankers money. its EU & US govt money.