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Cameron out by Christmas?

77 replies

minimathsmouse · 06/05/2012 10:30

"Nadine Dorries, a vocal critic of the pair, went as far as to warn the leadership it could be ousted by Christmas"

"According to the rules of the backbench 1922 Committee, in order for David Cameron's position as leader to be challenged, the chairman of the committee needs to receive 46 signatures from Conservative MPs to signal a vote of no confidence," she told the Mail on Sunday. "I would guess that those signatures are already coming in and will reach 46 by Christmas."

After the drubbing at the Local elections the back bench seem to be baying for blood. Are Cameron and Osborne listening to their own party.

I have a feeling that once again the Tories will implode. What a Christmas present that would be. Wondered what you good people think.

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Rezolution · 06/05/2012 10:32

Just one snag. Who is going to replace Cameron and Clegg?

minimathsmouse · 06/05/2012 10:38

Do you think that the back benchers have worked that out?

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Jinsei · 06/05/2012 10:38

Wishful thinking, I reckon.

Time will tell.:)

minimathsmouse · 06/05/2012 10:39

Link to the story www.talktalk.co.uk/news/uk/article/dorries-warns-of-cameron-putsch/46557/

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dictionarydiva · 06/05/2012 10:43

When this absolute shower of shite of a government took office I remember saying they had two years of power in them with Cameron as front man. That would make it two and a half years, but my initial feeling would be fairly accurate.

I really want to see this leadership team fail.... Cameron is nothing but a poor man's Tony Blair at his absolute worst, with none of the good things that made Blair electable in the first place. I really hope that the public is starting to see through his slight of hand now.

madeindevon2 · 06/05/2012 10:44

What will be the alternative? I see cameron is unpopular due to austerity measures however they are a painful necessity aren't they??

HarrietJ0nes · 06/05/2012 11:03

Austerity yes. Cameron's austerity is a bit too ill planned out.

minimathsmouse · 06/05/2012 11:04

"austerity measures however they are a painful necessity aren't they??"
That's the spin, I think the media, politicians, NGOs, the banks and even your employer are very good at driving this opinion and coercing those worst effected to never question it.

All of them have vested interest in your complicity to their logic.

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ealir · 06/05/2012 11:14

This is postering by the bankkbenchers, they are trying to push Cameron and the Coalition to the right. Deep down they know that unseating Cameron would almost certainly cause the coalition to break up and a minority Conservative Government wouldn't be able to carry its business and a general election would soon follow, this would be disastorous for the Conservatives as the electorate would almost certainly punish them at the ballot box.

Rezolution · 06/05/2012 11:16

Cameron has not been careful enough of his public image. To dole out (excuse pun) austerity measures and then be photographed in a posh suit with a glass in your hand is not good PR. Not in anybody's party.

autumnchild · 06/05/2012 11:18

Agree with the other posters - whats the alternative? definately not labours excuse for a political party. It needs a whole new party who are different to what we have on offer at the moment and who actually stick to what they've promised (wishful thinking i know).

TheCrackFox · 06/05/2012 11:21

Nadine Dorries is making herself look like a complete tit. I can't say I am a fan of Cameron but do the British electorate really want a new PM decided by some backbenchers. I would think not.

LadySybilDeChocolate · 06/05/2012 11:21

I think Clegg and the Lib Dems need to sever ties with the Conservatives and set up a government with Labour (are they allowed to do this?) Confused It's the only way to get rid of Cameron now, unless the Queen removes him which is unlikely (or a vote of non confidence, which is also unlikely).

minimathsmouse · 06/05/2012 11:22

Yes I think we need a whole new party, a party of the ordinary people for ordinary people but how.

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LadySybilDeChocolate · 06/05/2012 11:24

Mumsnet party, mimi. Wink

minimathsmouse · 06/05/2012 11:24

Why is a vote of no confidence unlikely. I think if you let the British public vote now, it will clearly show we have no confidence in this government. A GE anybody?

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minimathsmouse · 06/05/2012 11:24

Lady, that's a fab idea, can I join?

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LadySybilDeChocolate · 06/05/2012 11:25

Of course. I think MN has far more sense then the government.

DontmindifIdo · 06/05/2012 11:38

Lady - Lib/Lab coalision wouldn't work, as was discussed during the mess after the election - there's not enough numbers between them to get a majority still (that's how bad things turned for Labour) so they would also need the Welsh and Scottish nationalists and I think some of the NI MPs as well, in the end it would be about 5 parties that would have to agree, not just 2, plus they'd all want 'good jobs' in government. Not attractive at all.

I don't think the tories are ready to dump Cameron now, just because it's still in the middle of the austerity measures - whoever took over would probably end up being just as unpopular for doing basically the same thing, plus the ghost of "Gordon Brown, unelected prime minister" would be haunting them, there would be a lot of pressure to go to the country straight away, and in the middle of a double dip recession they would have to say "Ok, totally new policies" or "I'm new, but I think Cameron was right, let's see" - whereas if they hold off until the last minute, there's a chance things will be improving by the time the next election comes round, they can then take the full credit for any economic improvement and make the Labour party look petty by saying "well, yes it does look like your policies worked but they didn't really and you shouldn't take the credit", or they can reassess, see that things are still tanking and dump Cameron for a newbie (rather like John Major) and offer a 'fresh start' then.

LadySybilDeChocolate · 06/05/2012 11:43

They fail to see that the austerity measures don't work. In order to boost manufacturing people need to spend. If they don't have the money to spend then manufacturing will fall, shops will close also resulting in higher unemployment. Unemployment has a knock on effect to house building and manufacturing and will increase the demand for state benefits. The state will end up paying out far more as a result. Does this make sense? Confused

minimathsmouse · 06/05/2012 11:50

Yes but should we have a command economy? Keynesian economic model worked before but that might now mean a complete turn around on private/public balance, it's all very well socialising spending but who are likely to profit? I can't see this government renationalising and they would have to if we had any chance of balancing the books under a huge stimulus package.

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thirdhill · 06/05/2012 11:51

LadyS it makes perfect sense, as any first year undergrad economist will verfiy. Which either says a bit about the level of incompetence in our leaders [not their advisors], or that they are as clever as we hoped but have chosen to steer the nation into deep depression. After all, for every loss, there is a gain. There is no extra-terrestrial investment house gaining from our depression.

thirdhill · 06/05/2012 11:53

The suggestion of a command economy is just the thing to completely rejuvenate and sustain the current leaders in their trajectory...

thirdhill · 06/05/2012 11:55

mini you do know how to whip those backbenchers in line.

Could Boris be a not so secret weapon? I leave it to others to decide whose weapon.

madeindevon2 · 06/05/2012 12:02

so how does the country pay its huge debts?