Cameron out by Christmas?

[minimathsmouse]

"Nadine Dorries, a vocal critic of the pair, went as far as to warn the leadership it could be ousted by Christmas"

"According to the rules of the backbench 1922 Committee, in order for David Cameron's position as leader to be challenged, the chairman of the committee needs to receive 46 signatures from Conservative MPs to signal a vote of no confidence," she told the Mail on Sunday. "I would guess that those signatures are already coming in and will reach 46 by Christmas."

After the drubbing at the Local elections the back bench seem to be baying for blood. Are Cameron and Osborne listening to their own party.

I have a feeling that once again the Tories will implode. What a Christmas present that would be. Wondered what you good people think.

Yes I agree with LineRunner Gordon Brown did care about the poor and don't let us forget it was him who brought in Chid Tax Credit which dragged many families out of poverty.

Boris would be an unelected PM, he's not an MP at the moment. Maybe Zac Goldsmith could be PM then I could letch at him more

Nadine is right - the problem isn't that Cameron and Osborne are posh, it's that they are out of touch.

They need to stop worrying about the Lib Dems and start worrying about Tory voters who are floating off to UKIP.

"Yes I agree with LineRunner Gordon Brown did care about the poor and don't let us forget it was him who brought in Chid Tax Credit which dragged many families out of poverty"

Gordon Brown was more a friend to business than he was workers and their families. When Blair was in office brown and blair agreed that opening up our borders to immigration would depress wages. To cover up for the fact that they intended to feed us into the sausage machine marked cheap labour they brought in tax credits. No you can't let the worker starve and not reproduce their ilk because he is needed to create the wealth of those who employ him.

It is not sustainable to run a large welfare state/command economy alongside neo-liberal free market globalisation. Either one has to give, at the moment the austerity measures imply that the free market has won out.

Those looking for a new Left party:
www.tusc.org.uk/

yy mini

Boris fo PM i would love that .

Hi Julia , are they fielding candidates? we desperately need change on the left.

Boris would be a disaster as PM. Yes, is warm and charismatic, but he simply has the wrong ideas and ideology.

He supports amnesties for illegal immigrants. He doesn't support the benefits cap in London, even though it is set at a ludicrously high £26k per family. Instead of just freezing council tax, he should cut it, and drastically.

He needs to be less of a wet.

Actually, right now we should all vote to send LFN to central London to see if she/he can live on £26K with four kids for a year.

A wet, is a Tory with a heart. Imagine if such a thing existed.

I feel the aura of Nadine Dorries about me on MN today ....

Never going to happen.

Nadine Dorries is a stranger to reality.

tusk? bloody hell - will they also pay benefits for the fairies at the bottom of the garden?

mini have PM'd you

minimathemouse I wouldn't have 4 kids, especially if I couldn't afford them. And I wouldn't live in central London if I couldn't afford to (which I can't, so I don't - I commute, just like 95% of people in London who have to work). The idea that benefit claimaints should be afford to live in Notting Hill and Mayfair is just absurd.

grimble
www.pcs.org.uk/en/campaigns/campaign-resources/there-is-an-alternative-the-case-against-cuts-in-public-spending.cfm
Now with added fairy dust
Enjoy!

lfn - we aren't talking about people being priced out of Mayfair, FFS, but out of Tower Hamlets. How is London going to survive if all the low-waged are booted out to Stoke? Who will drive the buses/clean the houses/ drive the rubbish trucks/care for the elderly/ staff the nurseries? Are cabinet ministers imagining hordes of illegal immigrants living in garden sheds will fill the gap?

Commuting is ruddy expensive, btw. I pay £4k a year which is a big slice of my take-home pay. If you work in a low-waged job and get booted out of London, you won't be able to afford to get the train back in for work.

Jesus lfn - who's going to sweep your chimneys when us feckless chav scum are all socially cleansed?

"And I wouldn't live in central London if I couldn't afford to"

Any one not agreeing with the take over of cities by the rich, google "right to the city".

LFN, who will serve your coffee in starbucks, if it isn't the people you so despise and why should they have to commute to get there on wages less than yours?

Even Boris flinches at social cleansing

I detest Starbucks. I make my own coffee (Kenco, if you must know).

But there seems to be no shortage of young European men and women, scarcely out of school, willing to put on a smile, work hard and make their way in the world by going to a non-left-wing country, getting a job, and serving a coffee or two.

Our own sullen youth, spoiled by Labour's failed education system with its lack of discipline, and addicted to Labour welfare like EMA, could learn a thing or two from their attitude.

lfn Many members of the current Cabinet benefitted from an addiction to Labour welfare like EMA. It was called a 'Student Grant' and were paid to cover University fees. I think Callmedave got one.

Thank you Julia

Very informative. I always like to read the views of organisations that have absolutely no vested interest whatsoever....ah hang on a minute....

Seriously, I like to make my mind up after studying the views of all vested interests - given that we all, whether unreconstructed capitalists or unreconstructed socialists have vested interests.

Which is probably why I am left of centre on some issues and right of centre on others and could never ever subscribe to any one political party or simplistic ideology of right or left. Which is why I will never change the world....although I thought I could when I was 20.....50 years on it's

"But there seems to be no shortage of young European men and women, scarcely out of school, willing to put on a smile, work hard and make their way in the world"

and the way out of poverty is to sell coffee to those with a better education?

The city is fast becoming a class ridden battleground, btw surplus capital and the dispossessed poor. Every city from New York to Mombia is becoming a huge sprawl of privatised space which excludes the poor, only made possible by grabbing up land and displacing the workers, the same workers it exploits in creating those spaces for the wealthy to enjoy civic rights over.

A poor result in mid-term local elections with one of the lowest turnouts ever is not going to bring down a government.