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WTF are Frothers? Not a quiche, but a protest group. Fighting for the "basic line of British decency" against fiscal brutality.

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garlicfrother · 22/01/2012 01:28

What are Frothers?

The term "Frothers" came about one dank and dismal November day in 2011. A frustrated user of the parenting forum Mumsnet started a thread about her dismay at the cuts that the Conservative/Liberal Democrat government was inflicting on the British public.

She stated that she was not "quite a frothing berserker but I am getting rather cross with our government messing with the good stuff".

The good stuff - policies, benefits, institutions that had taken years to achieve were being cut for no good reason, often leaving gaping holes in the fabric of British society.

The NHS, with which we Brits have a love-hate relationship, but like a favourite sibling, we wish to protect from harm.

Sure Start, a successful scheme that supported parents who were struggling and offered children from deprived backgrounds a better start in life.

Universal Child Benefit was cut for those families who had one earner bringing in more than £44k a year. If both parents each earn less than £44k, they keep their UCB payments. This obviously hit single parents and families with a single earner hardest.

Disability Living Allowance and Employment and Support Allowance - which enabled those with disabilities to live a decent life, without feeling that they were begging for assistance or were a burden to the taxpayer.

Student Fees, the introduction of which, contrary to Lib Dem pre-election promises, means that a whole generation of young people will have to think carefully before applying to higher education.

These and many other cuts are being made in the name of austerity. We are "all in this together", but some of us are deeper in this than others.

We all understand that there are sacrifices to be made but why should these sacrifices be borne by those who already have so little?

The general public seems oblivious of the dangers being faced, they are unaware of the injustices being wrought on the already disadvantaged.

The government is winning the war of the headlines. They have blasted the recipients of DLA and ESA as scrounger and cheats so often that the general public believe it. They misinterpret data to "prove" their points. Teachers are painted as being irresponsible and greedy, while the bankers rake in the money.

The poster on Mumsnet was not alone for long. Within a few days, a group of over 30 posters had formed. They asked themselves, "What can we do?".

The idea of a blog was born. Three days later the blog had over thirty authors signed up, a Facebook page and a Twitter account.

The Aims:

  • to open the general publics' eyes to the injustices being created by the governement
  • to inform those who are facing cuts about their rights
  • to link with other activists and charities, in order to put pressure on the government

Are you a Frother?

Come and join us.

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FACEBOOK

TWITTER

OP posts:
carernotasaint · 23/01/2012 22:50

DH has been watching Coppers on Channel 4 and i have heard the policemen on this show refer to benefit claimants as subnormal and when the programme focuses on a claimant its always edited to show the worst case scenario. We really have taken a step back to the 1980s.

lubeybooby · 23/01/2012 22:53

Hunty - just wanted to salute you for your posts on the benefit cap thread. You explain so well. I wish I could muster something to say that wouldn't get me banned!

WinterIsComing · 23/01/2012 22:58

Yes, Hunty, kudos from me as well. Always one to fight the good fight and combat ignorance but you have been absolutely outstanding today!

CardyMow · 23/01/2012 23:42

Obviously re-found my frothiness! I get down about things from time to time, get a bit, erm, stagnant and depressed. Then I kick myself up the harris and get on with living the life I have been given, and doing it with a smile! Grin.

carernotasaint · 24/01/2012 00:03

lubey is spot on Hunty Your posts explain things so succintly.
I did have a wander into that thread. A lot of the bashers seem to hate us for being HA tenants too.

Scarletbanner · 24/01/2012 00:08

Another Well Done Hunty. That thread was scary Sad

CardyMow · 24/01/2012 00:25

It's actually quite tame compared to some that I have been on the receiving end of!

lubeybooby · 24/01/2012 08:48

I think I managed to say something reasonable for once but massive FFS at the endless fucking benfit bashing. Gaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhh

lubeybooby · 24/01/2012 08:48

Benefit* even

OpinionatedMum · 24/01/2012 09:25

Well done hunty, I don't know how you managed to stay so patient. Some of them will twist everything you say and only hear what they want to hear.

Hullygully · 24/01/2012 09:49

Here are a couple of interesting facts:

  1. The people that lose their homes WON'T be the single parent on White Lightening with seventeen kids and a plasma tv...because they live in affordable social housing.

The people that lose their homes will be the working poor, trying to live on the minimum wage and paying huge amounts of private rent.

  1. If all benefits are cut, no one earning a low wage will be better off, the rich will be even better off as the savings will be ploughed into tax cuts.
  1. Up unitl 2020 no low wages will rise, but higher earners will still see their wages increase.
  1. WE ARE NOT IN THIS TOGETHER.
OpinionatedMum · 24/01/2012 09:57

Seems like people believe that once they have turfed LHA claimants out of their homes their rent will be lower. This flies in the face of all the evidence that suggest private rents are set to continue rising.

Things are set to get worse for the working poor. At the moment a lot of them are so busy being envious of what claimants are getting they are not realising the govt is doing feck all for them and it is going to get worse.

I wonder how many people will have to suffer before people realise the truth.Sad

ValarMorghulis · 24/01/2012 10:04

Im sorry but i am going to have to bow out of the majority of these benefits threads.
I simply cannot face arguing with brick walls.

they simply fail to realise that many of them receive benefits. If they are on the incomes they claim then they will be in receipt of top up benefits.

But I simply don't have the mental capacity to remain calm with these people.

ninjasquirrel · 24/01/2012 10:11

OMG I have just read that they are planning to abolish the social fund. So anyone completely desperate will have no alternative to loan sharks. The social fund is the last safety net of the welfare system. See here and here
The vote is tomorrow, I think - perhaps it's worth emailing some Lords?

WinterIsComing · 24/01/2012 10:25

Valar I am impressed with, "you are the most unreasonable person to ever post on AIBU" on your thread about MP salaries.

Grin

If I were you, I'd put it as my status.

WinterIsComing · 24/01/2012 10:27

Christ almighty, the social fund - are George and Dave buying shares in Brighthouse? Shock

I'm writing to mine.

OpinionatedMum · 24/01/2012 10:34

And the CSA charges are being debated wednesday.

ninjasquirrel · 24/01/2012 10:36

If anyone wants to take action on this, there is a list of Lib Dem peers here www.libdems.org.uk/peers.aspx and on www.writetothem.com/lords you can put their surname into the topic box to find them and contact them.

lubeybooby · 24/01/2012 10:37

I have a headache. Jeez the number of bashing threads is scary. I daren't look at TIO for fear of having no options but to call several people cunts. If anyone sees a benefit bashing OP that changes their mind because they have considered the facts and educated themselves, give us a shout eh? :o

lubeybooby · 24/01/2012 10:37

and.... what? the whole of the social fund? Shock

CardyMow · 24/01/2012 10:39

I HAVE had a couple of PM's last night and today from a couple of posters / thread readers who have admitted to being enlightened...The good, frothy fight goes on!

KnottyLocks · 24/01/2012 10:40

How the hell can they justify cutting the social fund? They are removing all safety nets from the poor.

It is criminal. I am pretty bloody sure that will totally and utterly remove basic human rights. Jesus.

OpinionatedMum · 24/01/2012 10:41

That's good to hear.

OpinionatedMum · 24/01/2012 10:42

about the enlightened posters!

KnottyLocks · 24/01/2012 10:42

Oh thanks for that, Hunty. I was at the point of grabbing Hully's gun.