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WTF are Frothers? Have you seen them around and wondered? Not a quiche, but a protest group. Tory, Labour, Lib Dems - Common Goal - Protest Against the Cuts

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MmeLindor. · 26/12/2011 21:32

What are the Frothers?

The term "Frothers" came about one dank and dismal November day in 2011. A frustrated user of the parenting forum Mumsnet started a thread about her dismay at the cuts that the Conservative/Liberal Democrat government was inflicting on the British public.

She stated that she was not "quite a frothing berserker but I am getting rather cross with our government messing with the good stuff".

The good stuff - policies, benefits, institutions that had taken years to achieve were being cut for no good reason, often leaving gaping holes in the fabric of British society.

The NHS, with which we Brits have a love-hate relationship, but like a favourite sibling, we wish to protect from harm.

Sure Start, a successful scheme that supported parents who were struggling and offered children from deprived backgrounds a better start in life.

Universal Child Benefit was cut for those families who had one earner bringing in more than £44k a year. If both parents each earn less than £44k, they keep their UCB payments. This obviously hit single parents and families with a single earner hardest.

Disability Living Allowance and Employment and Support Allowance - which enabled those with disabilities to live a decent life, without feeling that they were begging for assistance or were a burden to the taxpayer.

Student Fees, the introduction of which, contrary to Lib Dem pre-election promises, means that a whole generation of young people will have to think carefully before applying to higher education.

These and many other cuts are being made in the name of austerity. We are "all in this together", but some of us are deeper in this than others.

We all understand that there are sacrifices to be made but why should these sacrifices be borne by those who already have so little?

The general public seems oblivious of the dangers being faced, they are unaware of the injustices being wrought on the already disadvantaged.

The government is winning the war of the headlines. They have blasted the recipients of DLA and ESA as scrounger and cheats so often that the general public believe it. They misinterpret data to "prove" their points. Teachers are painted as being irresponsible and greedy, while the bankers rake in the money.

The poster on Mumsnet was not alone for long. Within a few days, a group of over 30 posters had formed. They asked themselves, "What can we do?".

The idea of a blog was born. Three days later the blog had over thirty authors signed up, a Facebook page and a Twitter account.

The Aims:

  • to open the general publics' eyes to the injustices being created by the governement
  • to inform those who are facing cuts about their rights
  • to link with other activists and charities, in order to put pressure on the government

Are you a Frother?

Come and join us.

BLOG

FACEBOOK

TWITTER

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IslaDoit · 07/01/2012 00:16

well done Garlic. I never even thought about that before. Any news from Twitter?

IslaDoit · 07/01/2012 00:17

Thank DawnTigga. She's been on the marsarla. She is ON FIRE at digging up dirt on him Grin

She also suggested giving you this link support.twitter.com/articles/15790-my-account-is-suspended but I expect you and Headless have already seen it.

garlicfrother · 07/01/2012 00:52

Well, no email yet and it's the end of the day in America, so I'll send a support request ... with links Grin

DawnTigga, you collected some superb links there! Gosh, that man deserves all the ... er, loyal support he's getting from Londoners!

My council was awarded a "Most Corrupt" prize the year before last. I shall have to star digging through this week's FOI releases although, like Mr Coleman, they choose to keep council business private Angry My friend went to a public meeting and was told members of the public weren't allowed to speak Hmm

IslaDoit · 07/01/2012 01:02

Wow sounds even more corrupt than my Catholic-school-at-all-costs-regardless-of-actual-needs-of-children-who-live-in-the-borough council.

Shocking that in this day and age people can behave like that.

garlicfrother · 07/01/2012 01:18

What I wrote: it's absurdly long, I got a bit carried away Blush

I tweeted the following about a London Councillor: "@frothingangry: Too Many Cuts: toomanycuts.blogspot.com/2012/01/on-ele? Councillor Coleman: Benefit scrounger, Social Housing abuser, Tory bigwig. #frothers". This was a follow-up to our blog story about Clr Coleman here: toomanycuts.blogspot.com/2012/01/on-eleventh-day-of-xmas-my-true-love.html

While "benefits" is used in the UK to mean "welfare", the man has certainly milked the benefits of his position, as documented here:
www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard/article-24000058-pound-120000-a-year-tory-tells-desperate-mother-to-live-in-real-world.do , here:
davidhencke.wordpress.com/2010/11/15/armchair-audit-brian-coleman-britains-highest-paid-councillor/ , here:
barneteye.blogspot.com/2011/11/councillor-brian-coleman-under.html, here:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brian_Coleman#Expenses , here:

and in many other places.

"Social Housing abuse" is something he and his party feel very strongly about - they are trying to reduce the already woeful social housing provision in Britain and, as reported in my links above, Clr Coleman told a single mother to "Live in the real world" after she sought his help over an extortionate rent increase. Councillor Coleman lives in Social Housing.

Some clue as to his sensitivity over tweets might lie in this clip: where he argues for stricter controls on Internet material, replying to the reporter's question about the human right of expression with "Human rights my backside!"

Hopefully this explains why I think my tweet about Councillor Coleman was justified and my suspension unreasonable. The tweet was not mass-circulated, only put out the once as a link to our blog.

Please will you lift the suspension on my account and that of @headlesslamarr?

Thank you.
Froth Ing.

garlicfrother · 07/01/2012 01:56

Loving that Standard page linked by DawnTigga:

This is the same fool who wants to build a huge wate reprocessing plant in a heavily populated area of north London and then brands anyone who protests as a 'rabble. He's about as popular as botulism and is a disgraceful example of a public 'servant' who cleartly has no regard for the public and every regard for his pocket.
- Nick, Haringey, 13/05/2011 13:17

What did coleman do before being a councillor. What are his qualifications and life experience???
- simone, kingston, 14/05/2011 22:53

None, apart from being a sponger.
- dhan raj, basildon, 15/05/2011 19:16

You just wouldn't have believed that this was Britain, would you?

MmeLindor. · 07/01/2012 07:57

Gallic
Haven't seen what DawnTigga dug up yet, but could you put that letter in the blog? Always good to document this kind of stuff.

%23freethefrothers

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MmeLindor. · 07/01/2012 07:58

What happened to my hashtag? %23freethefrothers

Do they not work on iPhone app?

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MmeLindor. · 07/01/2012 08:07

Oh see we are using %23frothers2

Grin
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HedleyLamarr · 07/01/2012 09:25

Good morning MmeL. Similar to garlic I have had no communication from Twitter other than an automated reply generated by my email to them. It seems posting FACTs about right wing politicians is frowned upon when racism and misogyny are not.

I actually started a fred about it yesterday which got roundly ignored Grin

I'm about to compose and send a suitably snotty message to Twitter.

LordFlashheart · 07/01/2012 09:32

Fucking hell, it appears we live in 1984. Better get to Iceland sharpish

BecauseImWorthIt · 07/01/2012 10:32

Well, mums do go to Iceland, apparently.

MmeLindor. · 07/01/2012 10:33

www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/jan/06/labour-roll-up-sleeves-demolish-howlers

EXCELLENT

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HedleyLamarr · 07/01/2012 11:25

What I have just sent to their 'Zendesk'.

Hello Twits,

From further digging it appears that @frothingangry and @HeadlessLamarr have both had our accounts suspended for linking to a blogpost which exposes the hypocrisy and stupidity of a right wing politician. My question is this: all the points raised in this referenced post is truth not conjecture and is in no way libellous, so why do you see fit to remove it from Twitter and suspend two accounts, yet racist abuse directed at @StanCollymore is left up for all the world to see?
Investigation by another #frothers show that the racists have not had their accounts suspended from which I can only conclude that in Twitterworld it's perfectly acceptable to call someone a "nigger" but not to expose someone for milking the system. Fantastic. Well done Twitter for being a bastion of free speech.

Thanks, for nowt,

Hedley.

MmeLindor. · 07/01/2012 11:50

wwwbrokenbarnet.blogspot.com/

Seems out mr Coleman is fighting for his life and livelihood in relelection. Might explain the overreaction

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MmeLindor. · 07/01/2012 11:51

Is it really called Zendesk?

They need shooting for that.

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MmeLindor. · 07/01/2012 11:52

Hedley and garlic
Put your letters to the fecking Zendesk on the blog

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Hullygully · 07/01/2012 12:29

what what what

will try to catch up

MmeLindor. · 07/01/2012 12:55

Gracious! I am having a good week.

Just been told "Fuck you! Blocked" by random person on Twitter who seems to be missing a sense of humour.

Three is a charm. :)

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IslaDoit · 07/01/2012 13:07

Hello.

Before we start admitting any tweets were inappropriate maybe we should see what twitter say? We don't want to build their own defence for them - because frankly there isn't one.

If the cllr Coleman stuff is at the bottom of it all we should ask the conservative party for a comment. Censorship and free speech are not trivial issues. Who will they be silencing next? Free political comment is a cornerstone of democracy.

MmeLindor. · 07/01/2012 13:11

Someone just posted that her friend was suspended and had to email Twitter for weeks before it got sorted out.

No, there is no defense. If it were because of this tweet (and it must be cause it was the only one even remotely hard hitting) then it is totally out of order.

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TeWihara · 07/01/2012 13:16

sorry, i was musing about high gilt sale rates and that we are at no risk of having credit rating diwngraded, which is the real problem with being in debt. Being in debt doesn't matter if you can keep up with payments and we can...

OTOH my hade a lie in and less sleep deprived brain recognises that our deficit has been getting continually worse since the coalition got into power (lab had actually reduced it from thatcher/major levels) and we're about to double dip... plus that auterity measures, job cuts and low confidence is the worst thing for the economy

  • that comment is free article by p toynbee is great. I think she covered most of the things we've been talkinhg about!
TeWihara · 07/01/2012 13:22

christ look at my spelling

HedleyLamarr · 07/01/2012 13:24

Hello Isla, that is the only reason I can think of. I don't post links to malware, of which I have had a few on Twitter, I don't post links to porn, which @CaitlinMoran did numerous times, and I don't send racist comments. All of the above appears to be acceptable to tptb at Twitter, but posting something critical of a right wing politician isn't. Democracy my arse.

It has now been over 24 hours since my account was suspended yet they are yet to let me know a reason.

garlicfrother · 07/01/2012 13:27

I imagine Twitter routinely acts on complaints. That is fairly standard for networks. What Collymore's done is create a library of offence, so anyone can see who's been saying horrible things. While Collymore takes his own responsibility, Coleman just fires off a whinge to Twitter - which is, basically, a machine - in order to remove "nasty things" about himself from the interweb. I will put my letter on the blog, yes!