Oh Come All Ye Faithful, Frothy and Triumphant! Oh Come Lefties, Come Ye to anti ConDem-nay-tion!

[KateMiddlet0n]

Fed up of the ConDems robbing the poorest and most vulnerable blind? Sympathetic to the squeezed middle? Have you eyes that can see the horrors that await the dismantling of our welfare state and all that is great and good in UK?

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This is our 4th thread now!

Hmm, there is a lot of truth in what you write, Glasnost, but I am not comfortable with having an "enemy" as such.

And I don't want to point fingers and apportion blame.

The blame game doesn't get us anywhere, that is what the government is doing right now. Pointing the finger at the benefit scroungers, distracting from the real issues.

I think there is room on the frothers bench for people from all walks of life and ends of the political spectrum.

What's the tory thread? Up til recently that seemed to be all of them. I've been away. Ghettoisation doesn't help.

MmeLindor I, for one, think fingers SHOULD be pointed and blame apportioned. And I'd lay it at Nu Labour's door, frankly. I'm an old Labour supporter and if we don't get back to real socialist politics then we're stuffed and no amount of frothing will help.This is an urgent situ and a potential turning point. Either we resist and rebel against this onslaught or we put up and shut up and resign ourselves to living in a cruel, feudalistic world. Bit like Switzerland! (arf)

I don't find talk of the "enemy" useful either. But you're spot on with this:

"Without the preparatory 13 Nu Labour years these radically rightwing policies just wouldn't have been possible."

Labour commissioned David Freud, an investment banker with hereditary wealth to produce the 2007 Freud Report on restructuring and cutting support for the disabled. Freud is now a Tory peer.

Frank Field, the Labour MP championing all this through the Commons, was a Tory in his youth and now has a position in the Coalition govt. In 2008 he was named by the Telegraph as one of Britain's top 100 right-wingers.

This isn't the project of a party: it's the project of people who use whoever's in power to to get their ideologies through. The ideas are Victorian, repackaged in whatever colour will sell them to the govt of the day.

Very good post, Tianc. Agree with you. Never knew that about Frank Field or the Labour commissioned 2007 Freud repoort, but it comes as no surprise.

It's not a conspiracy, claig. It's the chasing its own tail of the capitalist tiger destined to consume itslef.

Most people are unaware of anything that would not directly affect them (not wrong of them, just how it is I suppose)

A few people I've spoken to who voted tory thought it was awful what they were proposing to do about the CSA.

I think the blame game is a distraction. Interesting historical perspective is fine, but not going to get us anywhere in terms of getting real results right now.

oops re FB have tried liking again. Have some ideas but no time at present.

Right. We have two blog posts ready to go live. Or three?

I have the one from Shirley on the blog already, will add the one from OM...

oh, just received it.

Shirley's is about the benefit scrounger perception, and OM is about being homeless.

What one do we want now? I would keep one for the weekend in case nobody had time to write then.

Hully's got a her pome as well, maybe that one for the weekend?

Oh, yes. That means we have a post for every day.

I can put them on the blog and whichever admin has time can press post. Or can we schedule them?

Ok, we have :

Shirley - on benefit scroungers

Bertha - on tuition fees

Hully - poem

OM - homeless

I would say in this order, and if anyone objects tough speak now or forever hold your jammy piece peace.

Today: OM on being homeless

Sat: Shirley

Sun: Poim

Mon: Bertha's tuition fee

Any objections?

Any thoughts on some posts over the Xmas period? We can write some stuff this week and schedule to post over the hols, maybe something heartwarming? A story of someone helped?

What about the blogger who posted on Twitter, and has had money donated so that she can get out of the damp and disgusting flat? Should we ask her to do somethng about how the assistance of strangers helped her, but many thousands of fmailies were not so lucky this Xmas (link to charities)

I'll be writing something next week to tie in with the Dickens stuff and the Christmas Carol story.

ML, I'm happy for the tuition fees blog to go on Monday. That would give me a bit more time to add some stuff to the end. (Bertha here, btw)

Shirl, I'm looking forward to the Dickens' stuff.

Hi I'm just popping in. Have to look after DS so not around much. I will write something on erosion of employment rights after Xmas.

Broken single mum has offered posts on twitter and we have someone on Facebook.

I'm afraid I haven't done anything as clever as write a blog post but I'll keep doing the FB and twitter accounts... and I'll get round to strategy with media strategy and sample press release. Now we have some good stuff we need to promote it.

I was thinking Victorian Christmas would be a good theme. Great minds..!

Kate
Do you want me to ask Broken Single Mum to do a post on what happened in past few weeks?

Did you see CrapTeacher's Dickens blog, Shirley?

And what about the 12 days of Xmas?

Was the idea to do a post every day after Xmas till 12th night? I think that would be good, cause a lot of people off work and bored at that time of year, so time to read blogs.

Could we get that set up in the next week so that we have about 6 draft posts on the blog and one of the admins can choose one every day?

Who has an idea?

I did have one thought, after I saw the fact checker post re: cameron's response to cuts to disabled children. A sort of: "why haven't I heard about this?" About PR.

I can work on it when away this week, disappearing later and back on tues. No guarantees if baby shifts his bottom and turns up though.

I'm writing the nativity story. Mary and Joseph are intentionally homeless and there are too many bedrooms in the barn.

Very good, Hully.

Te
That sounds good.

I have no ideas but something will come up. I quite like doing the "big picture" general posts, kind of gathering all the bits of info from other posts and highlighting them.

Maybe we could do that once a week, a sort of "This Week on Frothers"?

Sounds a corker, Hully.

oh oh oh

Any (small) victories could be shared in a weekly blog review - such as the Lord's vote.

ML, that's a great idea.