Oh Come All Ye Faithful, Frothy and Triumphant! Oh Come Lefties, Come Ye to anti ConDem-nay-tion!

[KateMiddlet0n]

Fed up of the ConDems robbing the poorest and most vulnerable blind? Sympathetic to the squeezed middle? Have you eyes that can see the horrors that await the dismantling of our welfare state and all that is great and good in UK?

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This is our 4th thread now!

Yes, MN is playing up big stylee for me

It's that blooming FB "like" button causing all the hass!

Today I have been told on another thread that I 'should have empathy for the tories' snort!

the one coordinating, key working person is meant to be a qualified social worker

AF
Use #frothers and then anyone who looks to see what has been posted under that hash tag finds all our tweets.

It is particularly handy when we are posting links to other stuff as it is all collated.

And it shows up on the blog.

And I have a search term "frothers" on Tweetdeck so can keep an eye on what is being said about is.

For instance, someone asked 'What is this #frothers I keep seeing?" and I was able to give a quick summary and point him in the direction of the blog.

I don't doubt that the hug a hoodie scheme coukd be successful - any one on one support is going to help, articularly with troubled children who are often calling out for attention and affection.

I just dont think it is worth that much money. How much did sure start cost?

I've got to say on the announcement today that it seems like a fairly decent idea - surely it's better to have one person co-ordinating the family as a whole as opposed to all the different agencies having various involvements and no tie in?

Of course the problem will be that it will, no doubt, be run on a business model (hence the Local Councils being forced to stump up 60% of the cost of this and only getting the funding from government on results)

Fucking wankers.

I dunno though - is that not how it works already? If the keyworker is the coordinator then the family isn't getting any more 1 on 1 attention than they were before. If the keyworker is the only person that family sees 1 to 1 (so each keyworker/social worker only has a very small caseload then that would be awesome - but surely that is a SS funding issue?)

I don't know that I can comment really I haven't read the full proposal and I don't know how it differs from how the system currently works.

ok, I will put #frothers on all my tweets then

The proposals sound interesting, from the viewpoint of someone who was formerly employed as a HomeStart Organiser: I wonder if they will be invovled actually, they do a few things like this. And if so i will of course be applying for the jobs. under funded though, and albeit picky did grrr when the news listed troublesome families as those with ASBOs, criminal records, truancy, unemployment and sickness. Damn you troublesome civil servants formerly employed for HM Government, and you damned people undergoing chemo...a

MmeL

Excellent blog post but a mistake - NMW is now at £6.08

Peachy
With troublesome families, do they mean families in need? ie. families where a child is disabled, or where the parents are unemployed. Because that makes a huge difference IMO

Thanks, Ava. Will alter that when I get back on pc

I still can't get over the fact that for someone working FT in my town, renting a Housing Association 2-bed house will cost them 63% of their net earnings. And people wonder why they cannot afford to survive without state top-ups, when they are left with only 37% of their earnings to pay for EVERYTHING else? And 37% of £9,887 is NOT very much - it works out to just £3,658pa, or £70.35 a week. How are they meant to support a family on THAT, if they get no state top-ups? That is why TC's were needed.

63%.

I know, Hunty. I have long thought that the Minister for W&P should have to keep doing and redoing the actual calculations, for several scenarios and for each change. It can often look good to start with, till you go through and gradually see the bottom line number get smaller and smaller [cunning]

YY. The amount of calculations I have done this week, Some of the figures are shocking with UC - some people with just TWO dc being up to £830 WORSE OFF a month once they lose their 'transitional protection'. And that's where one of the couple is working FT for NMW. It STINKS.

I am HOT to Froth today, my lovelies.

Just frothed right up on that thread about DC's hug-a-hoody scheme. Idiots.

More frothing going on here than in a Gaggia testing factory. Good to see but where are the rightwing foamers on these threads correcting the balance? Are they running scared?

To froth or to foam?

Have a look up thread glasnost. MrsM has identified as a rightie and a secerwl on the previous threads have too.

And several on the

Dyac!

wtf does autocorrect think a secerwl is?!

the idea that cuts to vulnerable people who may not manage to survive as a result is wrong is not a totally left wing position. I think it's a pretty normal point of view tbh.

Oh good. Far be it from me to hug a rightie but foaming's good too else it becomes a pinko lovein on a par with those weirdy rightie confabs.

TeWi I think you'll find it IS a leftwing position. Which is also pretty normal logical point of view. But hey I'm an old fashioned bolshy class war socialist.

Froth away.

I think that the problem is that the right wing propaganda is convincing those on both sides of the political spectrum that these cuts are needed and fair.

So that even those with more moderate views, or who would be horrified if they understood the actual issues, are nodding along with Cameron and his benefit scrounger rhetoric.

Lol, well I'm a leftie too, but every conservative I've spoken to in RL has just had no idea what's going on, and it's not something they would support.

(Though sometimes we have to cover the fraud levels being v v low, why exactly you might need an 'extra' bedroom etc first...)

But MmeLindor what's your definition of both sides of the political spectrum? Tory n Nu Labour? Sad truth is there is no spectrum anymore. There's a fag paper between them. Nu Labour by their own admission would've carried out these cuts too, only slower. We haveto broaden the spectrum and get back to real left politics. Without the preparatory 13 Nu Labour years these radically rightwing policies just wouldn't have been possible.

Frothing's great but we really haveto know our enemy.