Occupying Wall Street?

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I've just come across this occupation of Wall Street(]]www.thetruthdenied.com/news/2011/09/29/the-declaration-of-the-occupation-of-new-york-city/ link]]) but I really don't understand how it all started and what results it's meant to yield.

Can someone dumb it down for me? I'd like to understand it but as it appears to be already way under way, I've become kind of lost. It does all appear to be rather idealistic and hopeful (which is no bad thing!) and movements and rallies like this always seem to get beaten back down again by the state.

I'd like to know what, if anything, makes this one different to others.

Fantastic song. Pure poetry, can't be translated. Nothing like it. It's the song the elites hate to hear.

If all the protestors sang that in unison, then the police lines would simply melt away.

Una mattina mi son svegliato
O bella ciao, bella ciao, bella ciao ciao ciao
una mattina mi son svegliato
e ho trovato l'invasor.

O partigiano portami via
O bella ciao, bella ciao, bella ciao ciao ciao
o partigiano portami via
che mi sento di morir.

E se io muoio da partigiano
O bella ciao, bella ciao, bella ciao ciao ciao
e se io muoio da partigiano
tu mi devi seppellir

Seppellire lassù in montagna
O bella ciao, bella ciao, bella ciao ciao ciao
Seppellire lassù in montagna
sotto l'ombra di un bel fior

E le genti che passeranno
O bella ciao, bella ciao, bella ciao ciao ciao
e le genti che passeranno
mi diranno che bel fior

Questo è il fiore del partigiano
O bella ciao, bella ciao, bella ciao ciao ciao
questo è il fiore del partigiano
morto per la libertà

Brings quite a tear to the eye and it's not even 25 April!! National holiday in Italy to commemorate the liberation of the country from Nazifascism. (?) Yep. Still got it, actually. Never went away. The important thing is to be a "partigiano". And those brave people occupying Wall St are doing just that.

Still got nazifascism I meant.

The Daily Mail is also propaganda. It can't tell the whole truth.

You are right that the Tea Party, as all parties, is run by powerful billionaire interests, and its politicians are most probably puppets. But teh ordinary Tea Party voters aren't those people. They are just ordinary people, not too different to the left wing protestors in New York.

The ordinary Tea Party voters know that teh elites are determined to destroy their jobs with their bogus global warming 'carbon footprint' taxes which shut down their industries and ship their jobs abroad on the altar of globalistion. The Tea Party voters were anti the bank bailouts, unlike nearly all of the politicians. They knew that the corporate fatcats were robbing the public and getting away with it, helped by the puppets.

The elite use "divide and rule". They make the "progressive" puppet newspapers pour scorn on the manufactured Tea Party and its puppet politicians in order to set teh left wing against the good, ordinary voters who are sucked in by the Tea Party puppets.

That's how the elites divide the people and stop them understanding the robbery being carried out on them.

The Tea Party voters are good people who have had enough of the corrupt corpocracy and all its associated hypocrisy with its paid for, bought up hypocritical puppetocracy. They are not too different from the ordinary left wing people who have also had enough of exactly the same things.

It's all very interessante. Will now email the text of Bella Ciao to occupyWallStreet.org Let's get them singing it!!

The people are all on the same side. They all want true democracy. It's the elites that are rolling back their rights, cutting their benefits and their standard of living, telling them that they are no longer green and "sustainable".

claig - turn off the Fox news - elites indeed - what a joke.

I didn't get the use of the term "elites" from Fox News. I stopped watching Fox News when progresives advised me it was a joke.

That's when I turned to the Guardian and I learnt the term "elites" from such renowned progressive, environmental campaigners like George Monbiot. Thanks for alerting me to the fact that the Guardian and George Monbiot are "jokes", I will give them a wide berth in future.

www.alternet.org/economy/61002/

www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2011/jul/19/global-elite-scandal

www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/aug/12/youth-led-revolts-shook-world

Monbiot and the Guardian? yes they are jokes who abuse their journalistic credentials to further clear and biased agendas.

Monbiot lost all credibility with his "tax heist" story that is easily unpicked here:
www.libdemvoice.org/george-monbiot-tax-23067.html

I still read the Guardian but it's "expose" on Tory funding at the weekend was so laughable and similarly full of misinformation and holes, I am really having to stick to the lifestyle pages.

'Monbiot and the Guardian? yes they are jokes who abuse their journalistic credentials to further clear and biased agendas.'

Well, at least we are in agreement on something. I mistook you for a progressive, please accept my apologies for that.

protests spread across US

www.truth-out.org/welcome-revolution-life-occupy-wall-streets-liberty-park/1317825971

This is a great portrait of the occupation as it really is. The media henchmen paid by their corporate masters to deride, dismiss and diss the movement know that the truth will out.

For anyone wanting to show support, I thought this message of solidarity with the Wall Street protesters, organised by Avaaz, is rather sweet:

www.avaaz.org/en/the_world_vs_wall_st/?vl

Add your name and stand up and be counted - literally.

Here are some examples of the people who are protesting in New Year against Wall Street:

wearethe99percent.tumblr.com/

Article in today's Standard on the Wall St occupation

Any links to the "fat cats..actually visibly (and caught on film) laughing at the demonstrators from the upper floors, quaffing champagne"? Just the thing to wind me up on a Friday...

Thanks for the Evening Standard link, bobthebuddha

'But remember, the Tea Party movement was born out of the same sort of distress and failure as the new inchoate organisation which claims to speak on behalf of the 99 per cent: the same experience of loss of livelihood and fortune, of mortgage foreclosure and scandalous - often illegal - expropriation, the same helplessness in the face of medical bills and disease, the same ineluctable debt.'

And a part of what they are angry about - why Wall Street is the target - is the same perception that the banks were rewarded for failure. Wall Street got away with it.'

The author shows the similarities with the ordinary Tea party voters. The major difference between the Tea party movement and the left wing protestors is that the Tea Party movement want small government. They don't trust Big Government, because they think it is at the beck and call of Big Business and will always bail out Big Banks.

The Daily Mail has been giving it good coverage.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2044983/Occupy-Wall-Street-protesters-dressed-corporate-zombies-lurch-past-stock-exchange-protests-spread-America.html

'''We lean left, but there have been tea party people stopping by here who have said, "Hey, we like what you're doing,"' said Jason Potteiger, a media coordinator for the Boston protesters.'