What you don't know

[glasnost]

Revolution anyone?

current.com/shows/countdown/videos/michael-moore-support-of-occupy-wall-street-decries-execution-of-troy-davis

Why isn't this on the BBC?

Because we don't own the means of production of mass communications media.

Exactly why it's our task to disseminate by any means necessary.

www.livestream.com/globalrevolution

Agree, glasnost - the politics section of mumsnet is a bit like hanging round Sainsbury's on a wet Tuesday afternoon. About as far from revolution as it's possible to get.

I find the politics sections here make for v depressing reading - cogitobladebla and LFN between them make me want to weep.

Plenty of exciting/terrifying/important things going on in the world. But revolution is not to be found on mumsnet.

Not really sure why not - I would have thought awareness of the wider political situation was an essential part of being a mum - as essential when watching out for your kids' futures as worrying about whether your kids are eating/sleeping right or going to the right schools. Or probably rather more so.

Bah apathy. :(

Anyway, glasnost, good luck and don't give up - suspect the silent majority is wih you. :)

"I would have thought awareness of the wider political situation was an essential part of being a mum - as essential when watching out for your kids' futures as worrying about whether your kids are eating/sleeping right or going to the right schools. Or probably rather more so."

breadandbutterfly you and I know this whereas most posters on MN politics are evidently not. A rabidly right wing, embittered uptight type does not a good, loving mum make. But they know that already. That's why they're so suspiciously defensive on anything expressing hope for a change in the status quo. They take it so personally, don't they?

Revolution takes guts and imagination. Neither are in abundance on here.

That whole silent majority thing sticks in the craw though. As long as the decent majority does stay silent and lets the cogitoblas et el determine the political agenda then we'll all be shafted. People have got to stand up and be counted as this IS brutal class war and they WILL impoverish us and enslave us as has already happened and just needed a little manufactured recessionette to push through their most rancid policies.

So now whoever puts up and shuts up is part of the problem. Hope you're proud of yourselves.

And MN politics now resembles the sweaty, uptight environs of a right wing think tank. Or Millbank. Which is the same. Where have all the gooduns gone? claig may have been right leaning but at least seemed human whereas these lot are faceless, snidey and just plain wrong.

Glasnost! Come back! Unity is strength and all that. Just read about you lot, hope you're all OK. www.morningstaronline.co.uk
Just finish this cup of tea, then back to raising a people's army to overthrow the State.

And saw the YouTube #occupywallstreet - looks like Tripoli, but oddly, no UN presence

This is the most lucid explication of the criminal corporate capitalism that's ruining our lives and was filmed yesterday at the occupation. He was war correspondent for the NYT so is well versed in countering attacks.

aliceliddell the revolution will not be televised but thank god for the internet...spread the message as much as you can.

so much for the mn revolution. no takers? back to lenin, then.

Are you an agent provocateur alice?? Do not reduce revolutionary zeal to the Morning Star and bloody Lenin. That's old hat to most people here.

Do any of you actually bother to read/listen to links. No. Pity as you may learn something.

Chill, glasnost.

Chill??? Don't you understand the urgency of the situ? You can graze around MN trying to right the wrongs of the misinformed with reams of data and numbers but there's no time for that anymore and no point. Yours is an academic exercise. Do something.

Wall St awaits you.

glasnost my earlier post was an attempt at sardonic humour and a comment on the general lack of interest by the mn demographic. I am of course aware that humour is not a familiar concept on the left. Possibly one of the secrets of our success.

I know it was a stab at humour as my risposte was in an attempt to parody the paranoia sometimes in the real revolutionary movements. We've had our fair share of agents provocateurs/infiltrators I can tell you.

But seriously it's anachronistic to cite Lenin and turns alot of younguns off. Erroneously I feel but there you go. Lot of work to do.

I dunno, I think glasnost is hilarious.

glasnost as it goes, I'm not a Leninist but the wholesale rejection seems equivalent to abandoning the theory of natural selection or relativity because it's old fashioned There might be good reasons to reject, but that's not it.

Glad my innate wit is appreciated wordfactory even though sarcasm seems to be more in keeping with MN so will take your post as such. Hope to be surprised one day on here by genuine, open minded humanitarians with a warm sense of humour but.........won't hold my breath. Guardian's covering the occupation we see.........www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/sep/27/occupy-wall-street-anthony-bologna
www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/cifamerica/2011/sep/27/occupy-wall-street-anonymous

alice the greatest standup comedian ever - Bill Hicks - was a lefty. We're funny people just at times too overwrought and bewildered by the general awfulness of the current system to show it .

Thanks for this, Glasnost - didn't know it was happening. I'm learning a lot here, but don't know what to think just yet.

Hate the police violence; love the brave people. Really want change but not sure how best to go about it.

Will sit and meditate for now .

boston occupied
When you gonna grow a pair and do the same in the UK?

Oh but I forgot; over there anything vaguely resembling a revolt is written off as riots and you can get 4 (count 'em!) years in prison for organising one on FB. You sure you live in a democracy?

The BBC STILL not telling you about the occupations that constitute the American Spring?

We had Susan Sarandon down here day before yesterday. Did it get in the sleb obsessed frivolous news? Carry on with your pseudo democracy, suckers.

www.truth-out.org/revolution-begins-home-join-wall-street-occupation/1317230496

Glasnost, I thought you lived in Italy? Can you please post a picture of yourself banging drums, wearing face paint etc? We could all do with a good laugh in these hard economic times.

Glasnost are there going to be any rallies/marches/revolutions about the coalition carving up the countryside, with these new planning laws? Now if you said you were organising something like that, I'd be on your side.