London firefighters to strike on Bonfire Night

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What are they thinking?

That their new contracts are screwing them over ?

well, they would have to choose a date which would have the most impact on potential strike, in the hope that they wioll come to an agreement before that.

I cannot say I blame them.

Seriously? On bonfire night? That's ridiculous!

It is the only night that will make people listen.

Guy Fawkes Night. Before the PC brigade got hold of it! [hhmm]

Is Bonfire Night a no -no then?

Ah, ok.

I think the point being made, scurry, is that it is no longer acceptable to call it guy fawkes night. However, I have never heard anyone told not to say that.

If the strikes go nationwide who will they rely on to stand in and do fire cover?
..................................................................................................................oh that would be the military then!

I've never heard anyone protest about either name tbh.....so Guy Fawkes Night is wrong?
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The army will cover and lots of overtime for the Police too.

scurry - the RAF and Navy will cover too, not just the Army

if i remember correctly the last time we had a big fire fighters strike they still attended majour incidents?

Ooops...I'm going to upset everyone tonight....I meant armed forces (services?)

Pintybud. Yea, you can still 'say it' you're right. but no posters print 'Guy Fawkes' night do they?
Bonfire might can mean anything, from what I recall you burned your dear old 'guy' on the fire. Could get money for him as well, until they called it begging!

Pintybud anyone who tells me or my children not to say it, can foff! Mostly nobheads in the local council would do this!

PC nobs is the right term.

The fireman should have a right to strike, but on 'Guy Fawkes' night it may be a bit dodgy!

They have chosen this date to prove how difficult their job can be

Even during strikes the firemen have never put lives at risk.. its about time they were paid what they deserve!

fm clims off her soapbox

I was about to jump in on the army bit too

neil was a WOMEA in the Royal Navy and he covered the big strike years ago

good for the london firemen...and us.

I don't think firefighters do too badly, pay wise.

I don't think they're striking over pay this time are they? Isn't it something to do with rotas?

Thew "new contracts" they are supposedly being screwed over according to LadyBlaBla:

Two 12 hour shifts, instead of one 9 and one 15 hour shift.

No change in overall working hours whatsoever. And for that, they strike on Guy Fawkes night.

Do Labour supporters automatically support any strike, no matter how flimsy the justification?

I support strikes in very narrow circumstances - where employers are being grossly negligent to the point where safety is seriously in peril. Not the Bob Crowe "safety" excuses (namely, there is an England match on), but things like aeroplane pilots being forced to fly on less fuel than they consider safe.

In general, though, we need much, much tougher strike laws in this country. Mrs Thatcher made a good start, but she didn't go nearly far enough.

is this true, is there a link?

there was story today about woman's house burning down when fireman on strike, took 20 minutes to get there

herbietea they may well get more in paypacket than armed forces but they do not get subsidised housing and they have generally good public support as they put out civilian fires

calling in the armed forces feels like we are under martial law, i hate it..

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1323752/Firefighters-strike-Bonfire-Night-prompts-new-union-militancy-fears.html

LFN

Do you think it is right when all other avenues have been exhausted to go on strike to protect wages and conditions or should the "management" always get what they want.

Prime example, my Brothers company always had free private medical for all employees now only available to senior grades as they cannot afford it for all anymore.