Meet the Other Phone. Only the apps you allow.

Meet the Other Phone.
Only the apps you allow.

Buy now

Please or to access all these features

Philosophy/religion

Join our Philosophy forum to discuss religion and spirituality.

I need the proper holy communion in a Catholic church, not just a wafer

113 replies

TheGentleButFirmMadonna · 20/07/2025 13:32

Any catholic church you are aware of, which gives the whole holy communion, not just the wafer ....I need one in Surrey

OP posts:
UrbanOasis · 21/07/2025 08:24

SpottyDottie98 · 21/07/2025 08:02

I'm Catholic, attend mass every Sunday and we always have both bread and wine, so only bread and no wine is definitely not a Catholic thing. I guess it is church specific.

I'm wondering if this is a modern thing? Or English? Definitely not the thing in Ireland in the 1970s and 1980s, and that's as Catholic as you can get I think! Does anyone know?

UrbanOasis · 21/07/2025 08:25

UrbanOasis · 21/07/2025 08:24

I'm wondering if this is a modern thing? Or English? Definitely not the thing in Ireland in the 1970s and 1980s, and that's as Catholic as you can get I think! Does anyone know?

I meant that wine was not the thing in Ireland, definitely only bread.

UrbanOasis · 21/07/2025 08:27

trainedopossum · 21/07/2025 00:47

I’ve only seen it in recent years, afaik it’s not traditional at all but a newfangled thing that came in in the 90s maybe, along with taking the host in your hand. When I was at (RC) school I’m pretty sure we learned that you weren’t meant to touch it 🤷🏻‍♀️

Just saw this. Yes I think it's fairly new (if you are a child of the 60's like me). Also communion placed on the tongue by the priest always.

alsobigofboob · 21/07/2025 08:30

I would say if you’re referring to the Eucharist as “wafer” and don’t seem to realise Christ is fully present within the Eucharist, then your first stop needs to be your priest and RCIA classes. Taking this to Mumsnet rather than church tells me a lot about your understanding of what happens at Communion. You can also watch or listen to Fr Casey on YouTube for excellent genuinely Catholic explanations.

Nn9011 · 21/07/2025 08:32

In Catholic Mass you only take the wafer, you don't drink the wine. Only the priest and those handing out communion do.

Ddakji · 21/07/2025 08:57

UrbanOasis · 21/07/2025 08:27

Just saw this. Yes I think it's fairly new (if you are a child of the 60's like me). Also communion placed on the tongue by the priest always.

I had my first communion in 1978 and never had communion on the tongue. So it can’t be that new!

UrbanOasis · 21/07/2025 09:23

Ddakji · 21/07/2025 08:57

I had my first communion in 1978 and never had communion on the tongue. So it can’t be that new!

Sorry, it was the wine was new I meant. I can't remember when they started putting the wafer in the hand in Ireland. Maybe as you suggest, end of the 1970s, I don't know. That's close to when I stopped going to mass.

UrbanOasis · 21/07/2025 09:24

alsobigofboob · 21/07/2025 08:30

I would say if you’re referring to the Eucharist as “wafer” and don’t seem to realise Christ is fully present within the Eucharist, then your first stop needs to be your priest and RCIA classes. Taking this to Mumsnet rather than church tells me a lot about your understanding of what happens at Communion. You can also watch or listen to Fr Casey on YouTube for excellent genuinely Catholic explanations.

Rude

Hodgemollar · 21/07/2025 09:26

TheGentleButFirmMadonna · 20/07/2025 16:43

I wonder how though....the living body and bread is huge for Catholicism

Are you actually catholic?

It’s normal for communion to only be the bread, I’ve only ever seen the wine being given to the priest and the parishioners who help with the communion giving.

TimSamandLulu · 21/07/2025 09:29

You are not supposed to take communion in a Catholic Church unless you are a Catholic. For Catholics, Christ’s body and blood is present in both forms of holy communion and it is not supposed to be referred to as a wafer because we believe in transubstantiation. This is a bigger issue than whether you can get your preferred form of holy communion in a Catholic Church! Please talk to a priest if you are interested in becoming a Catholic and they can give further advice.

marshmallowfinder · 21/07/2025 09:31

TheGentleButFirmMadonna · 20/07/2025 15:19

I cannot understand why only the bread. The last supper was in the two elements

Well, I see it's because of covid but this has gone now

Covid has NOT gone though.

alsobigofboob · 21/07/2025 09:35

@urbanoasis
In what way is it rude? I offered genuine suggestions.

Yayitstheholidays · 21/07/2025 09:36

I was brought up RC - lapsed for many decades now - have never seen or had wine at communion.

Insertfootnote · 21/07/2025 09:37

I went on a Catholic retreat recently (though I'm Anglo Catholic) and the daily mass was both wafer and wine. I thought that was the norm.

SpottyDottie98 · 21/07/2025 09:40

UrbanOasis · 21/07/2025 08:24

I'm wondering if this is a modern thing? Or English? Definitely not the thing in Ireland in the 1970s and 1980s, and that's as Catholic as you can get I think! Does anyone know?

There are Catholic churches all over the world, and they're no less Catholic for being outside of Ireland or existing after the 70s. I've attended 3 Catholic churches in my life, can't say I remember the one from my childhood, but the 2 I've attended from age 18 to now (35) have both offered bread and wine every week.

WicksWickLighter · 21/07/2025 09:55

I was raised Catholic. I did my first holy communion probably in 1981? We had the wafer into our hands but older parishioners definitely had it directly placed on their tongue. I thought this was awful, someone potentially touching your tongue and that someone being a very old man in our case.

We also had wine, they use to wipe the cup then turn it so the next person isn't putting their mouth directly where the last person did. To be honest I didn't like it and I felt compelled to drink it. I hated the taste and the shared cup.The church had the same name as our Catholic primary and were linked.

My priest was a Canon priest though, that is how we referred to him as Canon Surname but it was a small Catholic church not a cathedral.

Ddakji · 21/07/2025 10:24

SpottyDottie98 · 21/07/2025 09:40

There are Catholic churches all over the world, and they're no less Catholic for being outside of Ireland or existing after the 70s. I've attended 3 Catholic churches in my life, can't say I remember the one from my childhood, but the 2 I've attended from age 18 to now (35) have both offered bread and wine every week.

That’s rather a rude response to what seemed to be a genuine question - most people only have experience of their own country.

SpottyDottie98 · 21/07/2025 12:01

Ddakji · 21/07/2025 10:24

That’s rather a rude response to what seemed to be a genuine question - most people only have experience of their own country.

I found the post I was replying to rude 🤷‍♀️ it is pretty rude to suggest that Ireland is "as Catholic as it gets" as what is everywhere else? Less Catholic?

UrbanOasis · 21/07/2025 12:43

SpottyDottie98 · 21/07/2025 12:01

I found the post I was replying to rude 🤷‍♀️ it is pretty rude to suggest that Ireland is "as Catholic as it gets" as what is everywhere else? Less Catholic?

Well, maybe I could have phrased it differently, I see your point. Let's not fall out over holy communion!

Sorciere1 · 21/07/2025 14:29

Go to an Orthodox church, there are a couple in Surrey you will get the bread (unleavened) and wine.

Catinabeanbag · 21/07/2025 18:50

I think the bread but no wine is more common in RC churches. Only the priest takes the wine. Both kinds (wine and wafer) is CofE. Our diocese has said that we have to use the common cup (no 'shot glasses'), which is a CofE thing. Some churches allow intinction (dipping), but ours doesn't, and I don't know of any where the priest puts the wafer on the tongue (whether that's a post-Covid thing, I don't know). You can take the wafer only in CofE churches and that's perfectly valid as eucharist. I often do because I don't like the taste of the wine, and I don't like the common cup (yes, I know the silver is an antiseptic and its rotated / wiped, but it still gives me the twitch!)

If you want proper bread rather than a wafer, generally the non conformist churches (baptist / methodist) have this, but they also often have grape juice rather than wine, and in small glasses rather than the one cup. Both baptist churches I went to in previous years did communion this way.

TheGentleButFirmMadonna · 21/07/2025 19:15

I would love a non denominational, baptist or one with good sermon which does regular communion as Jesus did. May be wanting too much.

OP posts:
trainedopossum · 21/07/2025 19:26

I don’t mean this in a ungentle way but this thread is bonkers 😀
OP what else is on your shopping list?

Takemybrainaway · 21/07/2025 19:51

TheGentleButFirmMadonna · 21/07/2025 19:15

I would love a non denominational, baptist or one with good sermon which does regular communion as Jesus did. May be wanting too much.

Edited

OP are you a Christian as you don’t seem to know much about communion and the difference in beliefs of the different denominations.

As a practicing Catholic I find your attitude and posts odd, like you are shopping for what you want. I don’t know how others (eg anyone here that is Anglican, Orthodox Christian feels.)

Gloaminggnome · 21/07/2025 19:56

Catinabeanbag · 21/07/2025 18:50

I think the bread but no wine is more common in RC churches. Only the priest takes the wine. Both kinds (wine and wafer) is CofE. Our diocese has said that we have to use the common cup (no 'shot glasses'), which is a CofE thing. Some churches allow intinction (dipping), but ours doesn't, and I don't know of any where the priest puts the wafer on the tongue (whether that's a post-Covid thing, I don't know). You can take the wafer only in CofE churches and that's perfectly valid as eucharist. I often do because I don't like the taste of the wine, and I don't like the common cup (yes, I know the silver is an antiseptic and its rotated / wiped, but it still gives me the twitch!)

If you want proper bread rather than a wafer, generally the non conformist churches (baptist / methodist) have this, but they also often have grape juice rather than wine, and in small glasses rather than the one cup. Both baptist churches I went to in previous years did communion this way.

I go to a methodist chapel and yeah, real bread and tiny shot glasses of non alcoholic wine. They even give it to the children (terribly scandalous for those of us coming from c of e backgrounds 😂)
I like it, I never really believed the hype about the silver and alcohol making it all sterile 🤢