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I need the proper holy communion in a Catholic church, not just a wafer

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TheGentleButFirmMadonna · 20/07/2025 13:32

Any catholic church you are aware of, which gives the whole holy communion, not just the wafer ....I need one in Surrey

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lissetteattheRitz · 20/07/2025 17:42

(b) There is no Divine precept binding the laity or non-celebrating priests to receive the sacrament under both kinds (Trent, Sess. XXI, c. i). (c) By reason of the hypostatic union and of the indivisibility of His glorified humanity, Christ is really present and is received whole and entire, body and blood, soul and Divinity, under either species alone; nor, as regards the fruits of the sacrament, is the communicant under one kind deprived of any grace necessary for salvation (Trent, Sess. XXI, c. iii).

lissetteattheRitz · 20/07/2025 17:43

Hope this helps ⬆️

lissetteattheRitz · 20/07/2025 17:45

TheFallenMadonna · 20/07/2025 17:35

Christ is wholly present in each of the two components of the eucharist.
If you are RC, would you take communion in an anglocatholic church?

This ⬆️. And most people don't know this. They think bread = body and wine = blood.

Takemybrainaway · 20/07/2025 18:22

lissetteattheRitz · 20/07/2025 17:42

(b) There is no Divine precept binding the laity or non-celebrating priests to receive the sacrament under both kinds (Trent, Sess. XXI, c. i). (c) By reason of the hypostatic union and of the indivisibility of His glorified humanity, Christ is really present and is received whole and entire, body and blood, soul and Divinity, under either species alone; nor, as regards the fruits of the sacrament, is the communicant under one kind deprived of any grace necessary for salvation (Trent, Sess. XXI, c. iii).

Was coming to say this. One church I go to has communion bread and wine the other doesn’t.

You may want to talk to your local priest if you don’t feel you receive Christ in the bread.

Marmite27 · 20/07/2025 18:26

TheGentleButFirmMadonna · 20/07/2025 15:04

I meant liturgical church which gives both bread and wine

Edited

I can tell you where there’s one in West Yorkshire. We went when we were visiting family and were very surprised!

TheGentleButFirmMadonna · 20/07/2025 19:33

TheFallenMadonna · 20/07/2025 17:35

Christ is wholly present in each of the two components of the eucharist.
If you are RC, would you take communion in an anglocatholic church?

I'm neither, just liturgical from another country and they accept me

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TheGentleButFirmMadonna · 20/07/2025 19:36

lissetteattheRitz · 20/07/2025 17:42

(b) There is no Divine precept binding the laity or non-celebrating priests to receive the sacrament under both kinds (Trent, Sess. XXI, c. i). (c) By reason of the hypostatic union and of the indivisibility of His glorified humanity, Christ is really present and is received whole and entire, body and blood, soul and Divinity, under either species alone; nor, as regards the fruits of the sacrament, is the communicant under one kind deprived of any grace necessary for salvation (Trent, Sess. XXI, c. iii).

Thank you

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ARichtGoodDram · 20/07/2025 19:40

TheGentleButFirmMadonna · 20/07/2025 15:19

I cannot understand why only the bread. The last supper was in the two elements

Well, I see it's because of covid but this has gone now

It hasn't gone now though, it's still around and causing problems for vulnerable people. Hence the reluctance to bring it back in some places. Especially parishes with a lot of elderly parishioners,

JustGotToKeepOnKeepingOn · 20/07/2025 20:35

I was brought up RC and in my almost 60 years I’ve never seen wine offered during communion. It’s only been wafers.

Thedoorisalwaysopen · 20/07/2025 23:41

Ours gives both. Those who are still buying into the covid rubbish are welcome to just take the bread, but most have moved on now and have gone back to both. As OP said that's how it was at the Last Supper and I am sure Jesus and his disciples were pretty dirty and didn't disinfect everything and use sanitiser before tucking in.

DazedandConfused1234 · 21/07/2025 00:05

Our Catholic Church gives both, but we're in Bromley so not that convenient. I've never been keen myself for hygiene reasons, even before Covid, but others clearly disagree. As a child and young adult we only had the wafer, but at some point it must have been introduced, maybe by a new priest.

Screamingabdabz · 21/07/2025 00:20

TheGentleButFirmMadonna · 20/07/2025 19:33

I'm neither, just liturgical from another country and they accept me

I’m not sure what “liturgical” means but I can assure you that you would receive both bread and wine in most mainstream Anglican churches. Look on the notice board outside for the times of their communion service.

UrbanOasis · 21/07/2025 00:34

Born Catholic in Ireland, very lapsed for about 40 years, but prior to that attended mass at least weekly. Never ever experienced anything other than the wafer. Nor have I seen it in the many weddings and funerals I've attended since. I would think of it as a Protestant thing?

PractisingMyTelekenipsis · 21/07/2025 00:39

Screamingabdabz · 21/07/2025 00:20

I’m not sure what “liturgical” means but I can assure you that you would receive both bread and wine in most mainstream Anglican churches. Look on the notice board outside for the times of their communion service.

Yes this.
My church wouldn't even check if you're "allowed" to take communion. We just assume that people who come up for it can do so. Unless they indicate they want a blessing.

trainedopossum · 21/07/2025 00:47

JustGotToKeepOnKeepingOn · 20/07/2025 20:35

I was brought up RC and in my almost 60 years I’ve never seen wine offered during communion. It’s only been wafers.

I’ve only seen it in recent years, afaik it’s not traditional at all but a newfangled thing that came in in the 90s maybe, along with taking the host in your hand. When I was at (RC) school I’m pretty sure we learned that you weren’t meant to touch it 🤷🏻‍♀️

SwedishEdith · 21/07/2025 00:55

I went to mass for the first 20 odd years of my life (60s to 80s) and don't remember ever seeing wine offered as a regular thing. I've got a recollection of it once but I don't know why. Even then, I would not have wanted to sip from the same cup as loads of other people though 🤮

TheFallenMadonna · 21/07/2025 06:48

I'm 54. Definitely remember it from the 80s onwards.

TorroFerney · 21/07/2025 07:33

trainedopossum · 21/07/2025 00:47

I’ve only seen it in recent years, afaik it’s not traditional at all but a newfangled thing that came in in the 90s maybe, along with taking the host in your hand. When I was at (RC) school I’m pretty sure we learned that you weren’t meant to touch it 🤷🏻‍♀️

Snap, the priest put it on your tongue. That was east Lancashire in the 80’s. Never offered wine.

SweetFancyMoses · 21/07/2025 07:39

I’m 52 and was raised a catholic. Haven’t been to Mass in years, but I never once had the host placed on my tongue. Always in my hand. And I’ve never been to a mass where wine was offered.

The thought of a communal chalice and the priest putting his fingers anywhere near my mouth makes me 🤮

myplace · 21/07/2025 07:42

Communal chalice seemed ok for my first 50 years. Compulsorily made of Silver and of course it’s alcohol, so some natural properties there.

Pity the priest who drains the last of the cup though. Presumably the fact they haven’t all dropped dead means it isn’t that bad!

We have heightened mobility since Jesus’ day, of course.

myplace · 21/07/2025 07:42

And I couldn’t let a priest put a wafer in my mouth.

TorroFerney · 21/07/2025 07:52

myplace · 21/07/2025 07:42

And I couldn’t let a priest put a wafer in my mouth.

I’m not sure you had much choice as a child! Can you imagine. At my Catholic school we’d have got thumped.

PotteringAlonggotkickedoutandhadtoreregister · 21/07/2025 07:57

st Michaels and all angels in barnes.

anglican, but more catholic than many Catholic Churches I’ve been to. Very very high Anglican!

SpottyDottie98 · 21/07/2025 08:02

I'm Catholic, attend mass every Sunday and we always have both bread and wine, so only bread and no wine is definitely not a Catholic thing. I guess it is church specific.

Ddakji · 21/07/2025 08:06

The Catholic Church I grew up in in the 70s and 80s only did wafers and I gather from mum and the aunties this wasn’t unusual? I’ve only ever had the wine in a C of E church.