Atheists and proof

[Kdtym10]

On several threads, some atheists have said they would believe in God/the Divine if they had proof. If you’re an atheist what would that proof look like to you?

And how would you know they were her own? Some connection😂

i’m sure you made it all up it’s clear that whatever did make it up had no idea about the way to myth build or concepts of symbology or history. It was quite frankly an embarrassment.

Do you normally go round name calling? Then you call me “rude” interesting!!!!

I gather that the OP considers themselves a bit of an intellectual, and that nobody else’s opinion is worth anything. It’s certainly the impression I’ve gathered on this thread.

Atoms vibrate at different speeds according to their properties and interactions. Perhaps take a course in quantum physics if you're that interested.

People are curious about something, come up with a set of experiments to test their curiosities, and find out the answer, one way or the other. Sometimes someone will come up with a new experiment which will then affect that answer. Ad infinitum.

Why do people need there to be a 'who' in the first place?

It's the blind faith without any evidence that bothers me. No critical questioning or wondering whether we (non believers) might have a point?!

No answer to tough questions re children suffering and people (including faithful Christians) dying of cancer?

You might find the works of Darwin equally illuminating.

Yes, he is often associated with the Draper-white model - good spot.

On several threads, some atheists have said they would believe in God/the Divine if they had proof. If you’re an atheist what would that proof look like to you?
Don't know. But it's certainly not this thread! Epic fail, OP.

I also find it frustrating that the OP continually refers to the content of other threads without realising that most of us won't have read them.

But to me, the Divine is everything, things that we see as good/bad joy/suffering. In order to contemplate its very existence The Divine created everything (inc pain and suffering). From the Humans perspective obviously things are very different. I’m sorry, you seem to have been through a lot and can understand your perspective.

I was speaking to a particular poster.

The same proof that I'd need to belief in flying unicorns.

God would literally have to descend from heaven and speak to me in front of many witnesses.

I was christened Catholic and went to a Catholic school until 15. Stopped believing before I even went to high school.

My mother was a devout Christian. I held her hand while she died an agonising and gruesome death from cancer. Most of the agony in the weeks preceding her death was directly caused by her unshakeable belief that God was making her suffer. It certainly wasn't helped by her so-called friend telling her that she was dying because she hadn't prayed hard enough.

"In order to contemplate its very existence The Divine created everything (inc pain and suffering)."

That is the story that you tell yourself. It's meaningless to me and there is no evidence for any of it to be true, or even for it to be possible.

I’m sorry, I’ve read that several times now, I must be missing something- what’s an “epic fail”. Your comment makes no sense!

This!

I was speaking to a particular poster.

And that particular poster (me) had simple suggested that sharing your personal concept of god / the divine would allow people to share what it would take for them to believe in it, as otherwise 'god / the divine' is a very broad definition.

I genuinely thought it would be a helpful exercise to allow people to meaningfully answer your original question.

Silly me, I guess!

@citrinetrilogy

Your poor mum, that's heartbreaking - I'm so sorry

No - I mean the ACTUAL works of Darwin.

What I’m finding really heartening on this thread is the number of posters who have never commented on this board before have suddenly found it! It’s like a miracle.

it’s a shame so few people have managed to read and answer the original question. But thank you to the few who have.

Im popping off now to leave you all to the angry rants. 😂

Yep, so did I.

Sorry just looked back - totally my mistake, I had hit respond to the wrong comment so not you at all. Apologies!

Apparently Mother Theresa was of the same belief that we should all suffer the way Jesus did on the cross. No idea why she's hailed a saint when the stories about her are horrific.

Chris Hitchens nailed that horrible woman.

Thank you.

It isn't God I have trouble with, it's organised religion and the way people (mostly men, it has to be said) have written the rules. Pontification I can do without. I don't take kindly to people telling me what to think.

If I believe in anything, it is Mother Nature.